Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 1)

It’s almost as if he’s got something to hide.

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seems perfectly reasonable… right?

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I keep being reminded of Hillary Clinton’s comments way back about a ‘vast right wing conspiracy’. There can’t be many people left now who doubt that she was onto something.

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Is it a conspiracy though??

They just don’t give two fucks how craven or corrupt they come off and are happy to do whatever it takes right out in the open.

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Like this…

Alito Assured Ted Kennedy in 2005 of Respect for Roe v. Wade, Diary Says https://nyti.ms/3VQtrG1

Yup , that was then and this is now.

And Gorsuch , Kavanagh and Comey-Barret all said the same thing

Bad form this one.

Clarence Thomas has a heifer of a wife who is nasty as you like, and as deep into the stolen election lie as you can get.

Now just the one Justice provides relief for one of his pals?

I am embarrassed to live in America. The sense of law and order has gone.

When I became a citizen there was a lovely ceremony and the judge told us that in America no one is above the law.

She was quite mistaken.

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Need to stack the supreme court. Not hard for Biden to appoint 50 new justices when it’s clear that the institution has been taken over by idiotic zealots.

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Send him to an island with Kanye where they are both made to take their meds.

Can just imagine what a couple of days of sexual frustration would result in…

Bleach please, bleach!!!

I never liked him when he was in office but like all of them from that age they seem so much more palatable,

On the flip side, it was his and their tactics that opened the door for Trump and his ilk.

p.s. Paul Ryan

Ryan is showing with this comment that he still doesn’t understand his own party or electorate. The small government fiscal conservatism was only ever a cover story - the thing you can claim your party is about because it was uncouth to admit it was about the racism and putting enemies in their place. What he seems to think as voters wanting to come home after a dalliance with Trump is the same misunderstanding. This always was their home, what has changed is the need for a cover story for why they want to vote GOP

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Has it always been thus? Was there a time when the GOP did not equate to just being full of racist policies and people?

Paul Ryan is cowardly here. He is outspoken against Trump from the vantage point of not being employed in government. When he was on the inside, he kept his trap shut, like all the other cowards in the Republican Party.

I do think there is room for a Republican Party that the likes of Paul Ryan and Liz Cheney would go for - usual playbook stuff, but rejecting the cult of Trump.

But I think too much of todays Republican Party has been taken over and remade in the image of Trump, so the old school types won’t prevail.

Mind you, I hope they grow a pair and rise up, as that will split the Republican vote somewhat, and give the Dems more of a chance to win an election.

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What existed of it in the US used to be fairly evenly distributed. LBJ, who himself was pretty racist, committed the US on a course of racism based sorting by pushing for and signing Kennedy’s civil rights agenda. Under Nixon the GOP then actively weaponized it, and it has thus been so since. There is a famous taped conversation with Lee Atwater, once of Reagan’s advisor’s who explains pretty clearly how they used those dog whistles.

For 40 years it was done with only dog whistles, things that were pretty clear to anyone who understood the game, but allowed people to pretend it wasnt happening. Both in the press and voters. The response to Obama’s presidency lifted that mask, and Trump completely ended the pretense.

There isn’t the actual voting constituency for it to win FPTP elections on that platform. There is a RW intelligencia who will tell us there is, because, again, they have been committed to the idea of needing a respectable explanation for why people would vote GOP, but it has never been what the majority of “conservative” voters actually vote for. Conservative voters like centrist democratic politics, which is why liberal parties always lurch back in that direction. The problem is these narrative about what each party stands for, ones very heavily based in racial animosity, are so entrenched, even (mostly) among those who are politically disengaged, that there isnt good recognition of which party will deliver those policies.

Why do non-white voters vote for them? Beyond the race issue, I always wondered why poor people (of any hue obviously) would vote for the GOP? Their whole agenda seems to be a version of “trickle down” economics (i.e. less taxes, less government and less spending), which clearly isn’t working - not that the democrats have changed that index either…

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