Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 2)

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https://x.com/atrupar/status/1881504937500135442

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Expecting the hysterical reactions from republicans who claim governing by executive order is undemocratic to begin any time now…

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No, it absolutely did not look like a “Sieg Heil”. Never the less, it was absolutely what he tried to do (although I see social media is full of naive idiots who refuse to accept it or wilfully deny it).

But my god, he needs to train. His body posture is so bad that old school nazis would have whipped him for insubordination and disrespect.

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https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1881526976844009743
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https://x.com/ElizLanders/status/1881519130391740789

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Are these immediately law? His birthright EO immediately runs against the constitution pretty explicitly.

It’s pointless to accuse these people of hypocrisy, if a Democrat even hints at gun control they scream about the 2nd amendment, but this EO is pretty much word for word the opposite of the 14th amendment. We know they don’t actually care about the constitution.

It’s a bleak future we are looking at. Out of the WHO, out of the Paris Accords, a Russian asset President supported by Russian asset billionaires, doing Hitler salutes and able to install anyone they want without security clearances at will into any government position. Unchecked deportation of people born in the USA, women’s healthcare under further attack, medicine allowed to run to any price suits decide (but boo-hoo a man who caused many, many deaths by going out his way to make sure as many insurance claims as possible were denied got shot).

This won’t stop in America, the US is a blueprint and the rest of the Western world will fall. Can’t help but turn to the influence of TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram etc in the fall of our morality.

But hey he hates transgender people, so it’s all worth it, including for multiple people on this forum.

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This was the most staggering part about the reaction to the TikTok ban.

Not introspection about the role that social media plays in our lives and how people are simply addicted to it, and its social disruptions.

Just wailing over the loss, moving to another social media platform, and begging for it to be brought back.

The fall started with the mass enactment of neoliberalism under Reagan and Thatcher. The “success” of the individual was promoted above societal cohesion. Basically, it was “Win at all costs, and fuck everybody else”.

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Wait is this preemptive pardon, if there is even such a thing? Because other than his son, I don’t remember any crimes they commited or charged with? But if there is such a thing called preemptive pardon meaning you pardon them from any crime they are charged with in future…then this country has managed to become shittier and shittier…then Trump might as well issue a pardon for all his family members for any non violent crimes right now…and the law can lose further power against these politicians.

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Trump, Musk and their mob are a fucking virus that is infecting and eating away at the whole world.

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Bloody hell,We know he is thick but a few hours in and he has to be alienating some who were thinking he was lovely till today.allowing the prices of drugs to rise is always a winner.Everyone knows someone who struggles with the cost of medication.

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Particularly given the schadenfreude seen when that health insurance CEO was gunned down recently. You would think that making essential pharmaceuticals cheaper than AR-15s would be a priority.

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https://x.com/paigeinkansas/status/1881489887226167417

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They are immediately policy, not law. The policy can be struck down for not being in conformity with law, principally the constitution. In the normal course, governments don’t implement policy they know contradictst the constitution…but this is not the normal course.

Now, how birthright citizenship will be denied is actually quite complicated. Denial of citizenship issuance to newborns? Denial of citizenship already issued on that basis?

Particularly amusing when you consider that the US also hounds people born in the US to foreigners who then move out of the US, never to engage with the US again - demanding they file US taxes.

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Damn, he ended up pardoning cop-killers. Next demonstration that goes sideways on Capitol Hill is either going to see Capitol Police go to lethal force immediately, or just leave and let events unfold.

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A rough way to think about it is that EOs are more powerful when they direct the government to not do something.

The courts cannot do much if the president directs the DEA and larger DOJ to not put resources towards prosecuting non-violent weed possession. It doesn’t change the law, but it does affect the implementation priorities and approach of the federal agencies (important distinction as state level approaches may still differ) responsible for implementing the relevant law.

An EO that demands the various agencies to deport US citizens over [reasons] are very very different.

He seems to have a mix of these in this big bolus of EOs

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The way this promise was covered during the campaign, like it was a legitimate and defensible position, was an absolute disgrace.

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Why, even if it’s normal practice to sign a load of hogwash is Trump being broadcast on our news channels, looking like it’s all about having a ‘fuck you’ scowl on his face?
I mean have all presidents done this on inauguration day?
In front of a hoard of baying monkeys.
Anyway it all seems so incivilised to me. Like public executions.

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Does it matter if Musk’s salute is a Nazis one or not?
The gest in itself is a punchable offense. The grimace, grunt and thrusting gest is just a big ‘fuck you’ dispicable and offensive.
This lot are high up and going to shit on everyone below.

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I wonder what his Secret Service detail think of him doing that?

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