Ding Dong.....the US Politics Thread (Part 2)

Majority hates both candidates but just have to unfortunately choose the lesser evil, whoever they think that is between the two?

Putting this in this thread because it is bigger than Trump or the election

The key thing about Trump supports is to listen not to what they say, but to what you hear. So much coverage of his supporters since Trump won has been focused on addressing a supposed gap in our understanding of them by actually listening to them. But it seems its mainly the press who struggled with this even in 2016 - constitutionally incapable of framing people as being rotten (unless they are on the left then you can start throwing hay makers). And they are still struggling with it now, even after nearly 8 years of doing the same story over and over.

This is a guy who is motivated by the russia hoax, by the crimes of the Biden Crime Family, by Jan 6th being a Patriotā€™s day out, and has a brother who refused to talk to him anymore because of how MAGA twisted he has become. And they set up this profile of him in the belief he was going to vote for Haley. Now, shock horror, he has decided to support Trump so the angle of the piece has shifted to trying to understand the complex machinations that could explain that change of direction. Hey genius, there has been no shift. He was ALWAYS going to vote for Trump.

Why are these people whose job it is to understand what is happening and explain it to us so bad at being able to even tell their arse from their elbow? All these pieces do is reinforce that even in 2016 we understood who these people were. We didnt need the press the get to the know them and explain it to us. We needed them to cover these people honestly

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itā€™s all about column inches. the journalists whom we grew up to, who actually reports facts and didnā€™t write op-ed pieces are long dead.

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I think itā€™s more about who those in the press are comfortable clearly criticizing.

There is a convention that those who write the news are not the same people as who are often called the ā€œreal americansā€ and so the awfulness of the things that comes from that part of the world is very rarely described soberly and straight forwardly. Instead, those who cover them bend themselves into pretzels trying to justify it and explain to us why there is some defendable reason for such awfulness. Hence the multi year cycle of pieces with the premise of ā€œwe cannot just call these people racists, we must go to where they are and talk to them to understand why they are so focused on persecuting mexicans and not wanting black people flying their planes.ā€

Anyone left of center though? Fuck those guys! Why are they so more comfortable criticising these people? They were their university dormmate and so the journos feel less concerned about being seen to be condescending and punching down.

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who would you rather get punched by? The Tri-Lambs or the Alpha Betas?

Credit to Mitt on this.

https://x.com/mkraju/status/1750549690221752806?s=20

Mittā€™s reputation for the decency and compassion of his politics has taken an unearned rise in the advent of the MAGAification of his party, and his history is far more complex and checkered than that story suggests. But there is very definitely an honorable guy under there and he is increasingly coming across as a guy who views himself on his final lap and wants to make sure some wrongs are righted on his way out.

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https://x.com/ruthbenghiat/status/1750879067333591539?s=20

:see_no_evil:

Party of law & order.

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Just did my taxes this morning and I am left owing a big chunk of money for the first time ever. I am full time employed and have fairly simple taxes and so have a reasonable expectation backed up by 25 years of paying taxes that the taxes taken out of my paycheck should be sufficient. The tax breaks that come from owning a house normally give me enough back to do something nice with. Normally

This changed with the GOP tax change from 2017. The high level message was there was a simplification of the code that reduced the number and size of breaks in favour of offering a larger standard deduction. This was marketed as populist as it meant people who could not afford their home now had some of the break that homeowners were previously getting. However, there was also a catch in that the initial breaks would start to disappear over a multi year period. That has now kicked in and so someone with basic taxes who would normally get $1500 or so back every year now owes $700. All to pay back some of the big gap created by giving the 1% huge breaks

Everyone will blame Biden

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He talks so much sense, especially in comparison with Republican politicians, and yet Americans are convinced that heā€™s a dangerous radical.
Itā€™s ridiculous.

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he is dangerousā€¦ to their profitability. heā€™s a politician for the common man.

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Bernie never meaningfully grappled with the reality that most people interact with his ideas via the online left, a group who live up to the warning Kenobi gives Luke on entering Mos Eisley. They are a toxic bunch with little interest in seeing improvement in anything and instead just wanting to tear down and demonize anyone who isnt sufficiently pure. Its just a circular firing squad as no matter what common ground you may have, eventually there will come a point where you fail the test and you are identified as the ghoul. Bernie himself is far more pragmatic and conciliatory than those who have tended to speak for him over the past 8 years.

He absolutely has been as a Senator. Considering the enormously ideological space, he had a remarkably good relationship with Inhofe, and their staff were actually able to work together effectively at the procedural level.

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No one fully seems to understand what this means, other than it is a monumental step

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1752047801695891880?s=20

The dots being connected by many, although still incompletely, is that this is related to Jack Smith having FINALLY received Scott Perryā€™s communications regarding Jan6th.

:joy: :joy: :joy:

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Shit like this is laughable

but his links to Aporia raises questions about Rufoā€™s proximity to extremists.

If you are only now considering those questions, or even think there are questions left to be answered, then you are either dishonest or too stupid to be let out alone in public.

I do find it amusing that people based in Florida would push ideas like this:

ā€œpeople in colder climates, because of differences in brain size, have more propensity for cooperationā€

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As if Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk arenā€™t causing any troubles.