Flat earthers rejoice
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I donāt know who that guy is, but that seems a very generous portrayal of Cenkās turn.
Some of the tensions on the left right now com down to the tactics of how to navigate the reality that MAGA got elected and will be in power. You look at people like Ro Khanna looking at the landscape trying to figure out where he can mitigate damage or even do some good and giving credibility to something as stupid as DOGE and getting criticized for it, mostly for what is essentially a criticism that he hasnt calibrated his outreach to them with the appropriate level of skepticism about their intentions and real interests. That seems to be what this Pakman guy is suggesting explains Cenkās approach since the election, but it seems much more than that to me.
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Somewhat surprised Young Turks still exist. Dude is probably looking for a new niche, always seemed like a bit of a megalomaniac.
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Pakman was my gateway to internet politics back when I first moved to London, in 2015. No idea how I got onto him, to be honest, but from that TYT and The Majority Report started making their way into my feeds.
I never really liked Cenk, too shouty, stopped watching TYT ages ago. Never stopped watching The Majority Report, but catch it far less than I used to, turns out having a job and not studying full-time is a real dragā¦
Obviously over the last 8 years there have been some notable and hilarious pivots to the rightā¦Jimmy Dore and Dave Rubin etcā¦never for a second thought TYT would be part of that particular milieu, but like I said, I havenāt been paying attention.
Cenk banging on about the donor class makes sense to me, on the surface at least, but throwing your lot in with bad-faith actors like Loomer and Bannonā¦eekā¦
Will be interesting to see if Cenk goes full-Dore/Rubin, both of whom Iād judge to be less sophisticated (more brazenly grifting). Interesting problem for the left if he does get lost in the RWNJ rabbit-holeā¦canāt imagine that transition would make the left more introspective, rather, it would likely prompt even more hand-wringing and bickering.
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Easiest trick (and 98.7% right) in the world is just find out where the moneyās going (or the sex).
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My Godā¦ watch this guy transform the world in a fascist hellā¦
When will people finally wake up?
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I would say itās because of unfettered access by actors in bad faith such as Cambridge Analytica and Breitbart that the world is where it is right now and all the big social media companies are directly responsible.
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Haha @Arminius
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Iām at the point of asking what is Trumpās (and those behind him) end game here with all the rhetoric with Greenland, Panama and so on.
Get as much as possible in terms of mining rights in Greenland, lower fees for using the canal, get Canada to pay for the US war machine etc.
Itās basically bullying on an international scale.
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The canal has legit economic security implications for the US and there have been elements of the US as an Empire movement itchy to regain control of ever since Carter signed the treaty that gave full control of it to Panama in the 70s. Everyone else has understood they cannot and should not just threaten them with force though.
Greenland has natural resources. I am sure this is as simple as someone mentioning to him they would like to pillage them
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It certainly stinks of something like that. Trump wouldnāt have known where it is on the map before Christmas.
I wonder if he understands the map projection that makes it look a lot bigger than it actually is?
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Itās surely no coincidence that one of his first targets is Denmark, which is basically the poster child for Social Democracy, with its high taxes, strong welfare state, liberal values, itās everything that his movement hates.
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Yeah, i guess i was wondering if there was actually anything deeper than the obvious. And to be clear, Iām pretty sure Trump didnt dream this stuff up on his own.
Which to me is the really scary bit. Heās an orange front
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Yeah, there are a bunch of shady Heritage Foundation/Project2025 types in the background whispering talking points in his ear.
Limie can tell us the names.
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