Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 2)

Trump has my head spinning, on the news here in Oz in the last few days we have seen Trump blaming Newsome>clearly political.of course and last night telling the fire fighters “Can’t you put the fire out, surely that isn’t that hard”
FFS,what kind of lunatic have the American people elected.This the same guy who wondered about nuking hurricanes a few years back, next he’ll be wanting to nuke the fires.
That would work really well.

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is that legit? is there footage or a link or something?

surely not even the Don would use those words?

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I think it matters in terms of tactics for Dems. If one side has no anchor then there is no line of argument you can make against them that they cannot just pivot away from.

Bit for the average news consumer it doesn’t matter that much other than to understand what is happening when episodes of infighting of people supposedly on the same team become public

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Quoted ABC News last night.

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Puerto Ricans can then tell MAGAs to fuck off and get them to re-write its European colonial history on the discovery of USA by Juan Ponce de Leon in 1513.

Tbh, I’ve never understood the obsession with Columbus in the US school system, particularly for such an insular country. It would be like Australia focussing its teaching of European colonisation history around the discovery of Christmas Island in 1643.

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“The fires are still raging in LA. The incompetent pols [politicians] have no idea how to put them out,” Trump said on his Truth Social platform. “This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our Country. They just can’t put out the fires. What’s wrong with them?” he wrote.

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This is where Scotty Morrisons “I don’t hold a hose, mate” line may actually be an appropriate response:

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direct attack on politicians, that’s different than;

on the news here in Oz in the last few days we have seen Trump blaming Newsome>clearly political.of course and last night telling the fire fighters “Can’t you put the fire out, surely that isn’t that hard”

@HugoTheHorrible and @JU97ICE

or am i misunderstanding something?

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From the WaPo…

This is obviously just one outrage amongst hundreds.

Serious question…can the US political system ever recover from Trump? He’ll be dead soon-ish, hopefully 2mins after a Democratic president is inaugurated in 2029.

But once he is gone, will such brazen corruption ever be weeded out? I just cannot imagine a scenario where the Goobers will ever want to go back to having the guardrails in place (fully acknowledging that said guardrails have perhaps not been as robust as they needed to be for some time now…)

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Nothing matters anyway. We’ll all die and the sun will consume the earth. :+1:

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Theres a John Wayne film he might reference for that

It wasn’t always the case. It didn’t really become that way until the beginning of the 20th century. That coincided with a large influx of Italian immigrants who became the new focus of the country’s anti immigrant sentiment. They presented Columbus as one of them as an example of what Italians can bring and then it just escalated from there.

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I did Grade 3 in an American school. I remember vividly the look I got from my American teacher when I offered up Leif Eriksson as the discoverer of the Americas, including the observation that it was weird to say he discovered anything if there were already people there.

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Very weirdly, lots of Americans apparently believe Columbus proved the world was round

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I wonder if they even know where he landed in each of his voyages, or that he made multiple voyages.

What? Like a plate? :grin:

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Or that Columbus himself never personally made it to “America”.

The entire town of St Augustine is marketed around the historical conventional wisdom as where Ponce de Leon first stepped foot on US soil, but most historians think Melbourne beach, about 150 miles south, is the likely landing spot

That is down to Washington Irving’s early 19th century biography of Columbus, which was one of the most popular books in America for nearly a century and was more or less used as a history textbook. The reality is that it had more in common with his Legend of Sleepy Hollow than a history.

One wonders how an astrolabe could be used by someone who thought the world was flat.

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I see alternative facts are an authentic American tradition.

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