Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 2)

Yeah. Having worked in the automotive sector , that’s where the shit will fall first.

Didn’t take that long after all. Plants in Detroit and Windsor going idle as of Monday.

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AI is ruining everything for me. I spend more time trying to decipher if photos are real or if art was made by a human than enjoying anything anymore, but that’s a topic for another thread.

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The number of supposedly serious people talking about consumers being able to respond to this by just buying American is astonishing commitment to the bit. Lots of the focus is on cares, but the idea you can identify an American made car exempt from tariffs by picking a US brand is absurd. It ignores that even the established American brands rely on free trade for component parts. It ignores that many of the foreign brands are today as “manufactured in the US” as the old US manufacturers. We could maybe manufacture this in the US

Or maybe this

But we are a good 5 years from being able to adapt the approach to manufacturing so an actual car could be built in the US using only US made parts from US made materials

It is committed stupidity all in the interests of agreeing with one of history’s greatest morons.

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My ex company which was a embedded system supplier to Ford / GM just got fucked then.

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Depends on which model, I suspect, but that is just a matter of time. Stellantis is shutting down production of anything that doesn’t have a deep backlog, and they are tapering that while getting confirmation of orders at the adjusted pricing. The rest of the manufacturers will undoubtedly be following suit.

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At least in the sense of American-only parts, there isn’t a vehicle on the market that doesn’t have components from Canada or Mexico.

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I read yesterday a story about Tesla refusing to take cybertrucks for trade ins such is their backlog of new ones they havent been able to sell. The cynic in me says this is in part a move to push people towards a company that has already made more cars than it can sell, maybe for reasons like their CEO becoming a toxic chud no one wants to associate with anymore.

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I am reminded of that late 70s movie ‘Being There’, except the premise there was that Chauncey was basically benign.

This is crazy - USD has dropped $0.02 against CAD basically this morning (started with London opening, but most since North American markets opened)

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I do perversely think that this is a way for Elon to acquire control of Ford/GM.

Latest tariff number weirdness…Diego Garcia, 10%. Diego Garcia was forcibly cleared by the US for their base, the only residents are…US service members.

It is genuinely hard to imagine how the US could be more of a laughing-stock, yet MAGA doesn’t have the awareness to be humiliated.

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There is now higher levels of economic uncertainty than there was at the peak of covid

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:expressionless_face:

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I just saw in the Norwegian paper VG, questions from readers, and one of them is an extremely Norwegian question ! :sweat_smile:

Reader to journalist: “what happens now to Pepsi Max prices ?”
Journalist: “Good question. Pepsi Max is bottled in Norway through license and so the toll the United States applied will not apply to …” and ladida.
I chuckled.
Note: Pepsi Max is strangely popular in Norway (not with me, but I think Norway is the country where it sells the most).

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I actually thought that was a great movie, Peter Sellers was brilliant in it

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These deluded people simply don’t deserve any better; my sympathy is limited at this point. Things probably have to get really bad before they wake up. But as long as it doesn’t affect them personally, that certainly won’t happen.

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Second hand car market to rocket?

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