Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 3)

Well, it was pretty flimsy from the start.

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Venezuela: we don’t want him either.

Not that it’s any justification for a flagrant violation of international law.

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How are those street parades going now, Miami?

  • Venezuela is now safe so we’re cancelling TPS for Venezuelans and sending them back
  • But the same admin is still crooked and we need to remove him
  • Now we’ve removed him things have got even more dangerous than ever

The South Florida hispanic community - “this is why we’re Republican”

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This administration’s attitude towards almost anything these days is incoherent. It’s do something because of Trump’s latest whim, then throw shit explanations/excuses at the wall to see which one sticks best with the cult.

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I started reading that the other day , and gave up pretty quickly , thinking to myself ; Actually what’s the fucking point now ?

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I predicted before he’ll end up in El Salvador. We’ll see.

From the Best of Glen Greenwald

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It’s too late, they are cutting a deal with the Chavistas (and worse, the interior minister) and there will be no freedom for Venezuelans, just more opression.

MeidasTouch on X: “This is a very sad sight to watch for so many reasons” / X

This
nxthompson on X: “This can’t be about drugs. Trump just pardoned Hernandez. It can’t be about democracy. Trump is often all for autocrats. But we do know some things: it worked; it’s surely illegal; and it doesn’t seem like there’s much of a plan for tomorrow. https://t.co/LHO4OYiQoi” / X

Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) / X

And this:
S.V. Dáte on X: “This is true. In Iraq, the US made a real effort to bring democracy and the rule of law. In Venezuela we could not care less about those things. We just want the oil.” / X

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It’s because they had no plan, no strategic vision, no whatever. Ask yourself the question. What does nabbing Maduro in Venezula accomplish strategically for the US with the exception of it being impressive and looking cool (tactical) ? It lacks a strategic goal, either of conquest, or liberation. There is no goal (It also has a Casus Belli on the Russian chemical weapons type level of respectability, but that is less important tbh).

The idea, since forvever, has been to help the opposition, what they do now is to strenghten the actual regime !!!
Michael Weiss on X: “The Deep State is so back. https://t.co/9Y4n1irpaz https://t.co/kenJ4IWW6n” / X

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Worst Regime Change operation in the history of mankind ! That is because it wasn’t a regime change operation of course. That requires strategy and a goal.
Julia Ioffe on X: “This is going great” / X

The US is run by the worst people, the very worst.

Trump strikes Venezuela: Three conclusions for Europe – European Council on Foreign Relations

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Very hard to look past the possibility that most of that deal was before the strike, and Maduro was offered up as the sacrificial goat.

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Possible, but imo not that likely due to the high losses amongst cuban special forces. But it’s possible, but I don’t think it even matters. The point that matters, I think, is that the regime will go on with concessions to the US and that everyone who hoped for freedom for Venezuelans from opression, will be disappointed.

If there was regime change, at least something good could have come out of this disaster. Now it is a the worst from all worlds (except war).

Bill Kristol on X: “Nope. The countries Trump has “put on notice” are Colombia–governed by a democratically elected president whose party may lose this year’s election, Mexico–a democracy and trading partner, and Denmark–a NATO ally. And Venezuela remains governed by…narcoterrorist dictators.” / X

That is one of the elements that makes me wonder - no way the Cubans betray Maduro, but Chavistas with connections to the Interior Ministry are part of the game.

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Absolutely. But Cuba is no joke in the security realm in Latin America.
I agree of course that it is 99 (probably more) percent likely that the US were in talks to figures in Maduro’s regime before the strike (of course they were, normal procedure that), but I don¨t think the interior minister just allowed those Cubans to be killed as sacrificial lambs, as that would be a politically strange decision by those who wanted to cut a deal.

I think most of what has been negotiated/dictated, is in the aftermath of the strikes. We would do well to remember how massive a system shock this ops is. This Ops is militarily highly impressive and sure to instill terror in the Venezuelan command. No other state can do Ops like this, and Air defence was systematically destroyed, allowing American forces to land in the mosty humiliating manner possible, in the streets of Caracas.
That puts the regime under almost impossible pressure.

Ugh. Time to find a banana republic and retire in the surf.
Think I just found it. Fuck the western world. I want off this ride.

This thread needs to be renamed to “bomb, baby. bomb”

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It sounds like a joke (maybe it is and Tucker is just operating at levels I cannot comprehend), but there is now a theory on the right that we did the Venezuela operation in the interest of GloboHomo - Maduro’s opposition wanted to legalize gay marriage so the gay deep state had to remove him.

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