Drill Baby Drill...the US Politics Thread (Part 4)

Essentially, European nations are dependent on the US. Not so much from a military perspective, but because they are dependent on American firms.

Most computer systems are dependent in some way on a US technology stack. The US government has shown that it is willing to weaponise this; just see what they have done to the ICC because Trump has had a toddler tantrum.

The effect long term is that Europe will move away from the US, but in the short term they are being squeezed by the balls over it.

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833 days and 8 hours until the next US presidential inauguration,

can come soon enough…

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You mean can’t

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Yip!!!

Then this madness will end hopefully ..

My answer is the same as @RedWhippet’s below.
Though I would also probably add the “military perspective”, since there are glaring holes in European security if you remove the USA from the equation, since the US has almost monopoly on certain very important categories of weapons you unfortunately need, as well as industrial capacity and intelligence (space, space, space; they are so far ahead in space).

But Dependence like our favorite hound says (hardly an insult to you, Limiescouse, but for some reason, I refuse to call that dog on your avatar for a “hound” :wink: ).

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Fresh example of dependence.

The fact of the matter is, European powers are too weak to offer Ukraine this, because we do not have it ourselves and we are dependent on the USA even today and will be in the coming years too (hopefully not medium term, but short term, next 10 years ? Yes). I could use another word than weakness, but I don’t like beating around the bush. It is a grave weakness. Far worse than most people think or understand.
https://x.com/RALee85/status/2108885771872620825

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Shrugs
https://x.com/FaytuksNetwork/status/2108896771472765417

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It’s obviously insanely dumb, but it breaks me he uses (allegedly) winning wars as a justification for deserving a peace prize :joy:

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I got a cheque for $2,000 from Donald Trump this past week. His name was on it. I didn’t know anything about it and it arrived out of the blue. It said it was a payment for overpaying for health insurance via The Affordable Care Act, Obamacare.

Health insurance costs are indeed a disgrace, and I don’t dispute that I have paid far too much over the years, and thankfully we switched to insurance provided via Mrs ROTW’s work a couple of months ago, and it is much better.

Still, I didn’t know they were going to do this and Trump appears to be trying to buy himself some favor coming up to the midterms.

What would you do with the dough? It’s funny money, tainted, but still something useful could be done, so I deposited it and donated the amount to a local food pantry.

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You’re a good egg, ROTW.

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Very. He is a very good “egg” indeed.

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…he is a crap story teller though… talk about getting ya onto the edge of your seat before shutting down before the ending… what has happened to injured goose that caught all our attention..?? :wink:

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https://x.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/2108917338506453381

Fox News ist nur ein weiteres Sprachrohr des Kreml-Staatsfernsehens

:expressionless_face:

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Fortunately, however, there are also a few sensible voices. That might not have been intended that way.

https://x.com/WorldAffairsPro/status/2108871345819836535

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The person I have to wonder about is Modi. Modi was apparently absolutely blasted by Trump for buying Iranian oil, having also faced considerable pressure to stop buying Russian oil themselves. I doubt there are many countries that in aggregate have endured more economic hardship than India (some more per capita, but India would be up there, and obviously a huge population). Now, suddenly when Americans are discomforted by paying a price for diesel that is still below the pre-Hormuz price seen in most of the developed world, Trump flips in hopes of saving the GOP position.

Why would anyone now take American economic sanctions seriously, unless absolutely compelled to do so?

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You could have bought diesel for your motor,
Might even fill the tank!

But good on you for donating the money,

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Honestly, I don’t give a fuck about Modi and India. They deserve the grief for siding with the Russian Empire in it’s invasion.

Ukraine does not:
https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/2108965112350695916

Essentially, one of the few good things Trump did, imo, was punishing India (but for the very wrong reasons).

That doesn’t mean I don’t think your post is high quality. They always, always are. I just don’t care about Modi being humiliated and wouldn’t mind seeing more.

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this diesel that Russia is giving to the US,

Putin isnt doing this out of the goodness of his heart or trying to build bridges with the US

there are ulterior motives

Putin needs to keep Donald and his goons in power,
lowering the cost of Diesel in the US ahead of then mid terms helps

He wants Donald to put pressure on Ukraine to stop bombing the Russian refineries,

i can almost hear Putin telling Donald that Russia will solve its diesel problems if you get Ukraine to stop bombing our refineries

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It’s obvious to me that it’s a US administration outreach to Russia and not the other way around in this case, but otherwise I very much agree.

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Didn’t Trump and Vance lay into Zelensky for implying the war started by Russia against Ukraine would affect the US one day?

Just look who’s correct.

In anycase this diesel nonsense is only about getting sanctions against Russia alleviated. Something Trump has always wanted.