England National Team

We have an investor critical milestone that has to be delivered mid Dec. Jobs will be lost if it doesnt and the expectation is that an already full workload is going to ramp up week by week until then to make it happen. Ive only recently connected the dots on what that means for me and the world cup, and I’m honestly not that bothered.

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Southgate is just a very very shit manager, speaks well in public and that’s it.

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Obviously not English…

But:
Semi Finalists in last World Cup.
Finalists in last Euros, and poor penalty choices away from winning it…

He is relegated in a shit, nonsensical tournament and his achievements mean fuck all? It was pointed out earlier that his choice at CB is the worst for an England manager for decades…Maguire vs Terry, Ferdinand, Carra etc etc…

He might never win a major prize but he has gone closer than the majority of his predecessors, and arguably they had better players than he has.

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No one is forcing him to play Maguire and Dier. He can find a duo between Gomez, Tomori, White and Walker to field in a functional back four instead of deploying 3 CBs, still conceding and looking terrible all over the pitch with that abomination of formation. What was that? 3-2-2-2-1? 3-4-2-1? Fuck knows. After 70 odd minutes the only thing I was sure of is that he had 3 at the back. A totally incoherent team with no plan or any inkling what to do.

Southgate is likeable on a personal level and he has been the most succesful English manager since the sixties but his limitations have become an immovable hindrance. It would be less suprising to see England crash out at the group stage than actually going all the way and winning it.

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Playing Germany on Monday. We lost to Hungary yesterday.

Will be funny to see which football nation will switch to panic mode after that game :sweat_smile:

But doesn’t really matter until the WC starts.

I didn’t know even know teams could get relegated :joy:

Got us close playing shit football and also having favorable draws before finally bowing out to the 1st decent team we face.

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Usual hyped betting.

Then again I don’t think there is a stand out national side at the moment. Well one that is going to the World Cup.

Henderson or Pope
Trent Gomez Stones Walker
Henderson Rice Bellingham
Sterling Kane Foden

At some point Southgate stopped pushing and improving his team.

Pickford is due a massive error which might allow him to move on to Pope.

When is someone gonna come up with the extension: England National Team: ‘That’s the joke - right there’? Never been used before after all…:face_with_monocle:

“He knows a lot about Sean Connery”

Gomez at his current form doesn’t deserve to be in the squad.

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Popes distribution was shite, Ramsdale is 1 in my opinion. Picks on his day is very good but has a clanger in him. Just depends when it comes.

Stones and Tomori as centre backs. I wasn’t too impressed by Tomori in the 4-0 defeat but Maguire needs to be dropped. I swear Southgate said he picks off form? Right back is TAA or James. Any will do. Chillwell at left back.

Rice is decent, does dirty work, keeps simple. You need that in a team. Bellingham was good 2nd half yesterday. More of that and it’s a definite start. I’d put Foden or Henderson depending on team. Hendo is a leader and will protect the shite centre half’s with Rice and Foden will play against the defensive sides that need breaking down.

Saka, Kane and Sterling up top. Pace, and directness on the wings. Those technical Man City wingers kill the pace of the attack. I reckon he actually takes Rashford as the shock inclusion.

By current form, you mean the Napoli game? Because otherwise he’s been more than decent, considering his fitness issues. If you want to look for someone truly undeserving, look no further than Maguire who has been unplayable for at least a couple of years.

Gomez got man of the match one game and then very poor next one so we judging him by the poor game. :no_mouth:

I mean for a while now. Either injured unfortunately, playing well but at right back at the end of last season, or playing not well enough at CB. Gomez has had brilliant periods for us (and also a little spell when he finally had the chance to win a starting spot for England), but those are a long while back.

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Southgate should include Joe Gomez for the simple reason it was on England duty he got injured and was out of the game for over 12 months…
Crap way to pick a squad I know, but surely, he owes him that

Southgate is a conservative safety-first style manager, and even more importantly, fits in well with the top suits at the FA.

His defensive pragmatic approach ensures that he qualifies for the Euros/WC, and also lets him get out of the finals’ group stage.

Go up a goal in an important knock out game? Revert to keeping shape looking to defend. Time and time again. He loves Kyle Walker as that auxiliary CB slash full back. He builds his defence around Harry Maguire.

He’ll get out of the WC group stage again and look to grind out some wins. His foot will always be on the brakes.

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I’d rather he sits out glorified friendlies.

If he plays well enough to go to the finals great but we have only just got Matip back and Konate seems to just be about back for the return of games.

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