So football came home. Enroute transit to Italy.
And seriously, I was not arsed about international football but those racists… When would authorities both in and out of football take these as serious as any other crimes in this world?
I feel so sorry for the whole team. I cried abit with mum. It was just so cruel to lose a huge final on penalties.
I felt for Harry, he is a fantastic baller and a good Captain and nice guy. I hope he wins a gold winnerd medal his career soon.
I just don’t want to see another football match for a good month.
All that crying about Grealish before, during and after every game but he did absolutely bugger all. Didn’t influence games he came on in and allowed a teenager to take a penalty while he hid away. Has to be the most overrated player in this England squad.
Enjoyed that. Saka could do with a nice big hug from Klopp, though.
Did he also take the blame for the complete lack of ambition that led to his team only having one shot on target in two hours of football?
Thought not.
Nice lad, though.
To be fair, he is a nice bloke; I’ve met him. But he is a hopeless manager at this level.
No but you see it’s exactly the same. Just scaled up. There are over 20 million fans watching up and down the country and the vast vast majority are normal people.
Even if all 60,000 were rioting (which they clearly weren’t) that’s still a huge minority of 20 million.
England fans are just like any club fans, they all have hundreds of fans who are dickheads. The problem is that at Wembley you have the dickheads from Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham, Arsenal, Millwall, etc and probably further afield all converging as one dickhead supergroup.
And Liverpool fans have the same. Remember the fountain in Barca, remember two trashed opposition coaches, remember these:
https://twitter.com/joeando58/status/1276951486413578241?s=19
As Liverpool fans, we rightly condemn this behaviour and tell us others that they don’t represent the majority of the fanbase, but for some reason England supporters are not afforded that luxury.
The behaviour of all these fans was deplorable, but my point was only ever that by the fourth of fifth video whoever was posting them was becoming tedious to the point that it felt like they were just spamming the thread.
I think it is a bit unfair to say Saka bottled it. Stepped up and took the most pressured penalty in the final.
Personally, I think Southgate made 2 poor decisions through the tournement, both in the final.
1st was leaving it so late to bring on Rashford and Sancho. If you’re bringing them on specifically for penalties, you need to give them 5-10 minutes to get into the rhythem of the game and get a few touches before having to step up and take a penalty.
The 2nd poor choice was having Saka as the 5th option. I have no problem with him being 1 of the 5, but 5th is putting too much pressure and responsibility on a 19yo with 1 season of 1st team football. Let him be 2nd or 3rd so that you have other opportunities to recover if he misses.
And for those asking why Sterling didn’t take one, remember his record with penalties at Citeh the last few seasons? They’ve been fucking woeful, not someone I’d want taking one.
Best team won…but I do feel so sorry for those three lads that missed. It will haunt them for a long long time…and the online abuse begins 
He’s also guilty of driving a Jag like a Prius.
Also just to add a sense of balance, yesterday also probably marked the beginning of space tourism as a human industry. So in the grand scheme of things 11 July 2021 will probably remembered for other things.
I think the big difference is that on the whole Liverpool fans are regarded as well behaved, humorous who don’t cause trouble. On the whole. But with an element idiots who just want to cause havoc
But with the English national team they have a reputation of what we saw yesterday. And I think it’s safe to say locals dread when England are playing in their city. Think Euro 88, Lansdowne Road, Russia 2018. Just three high profile examples yet there are many more. Well behaved fans is not the first thing that springs to mind when you think England fans.
England fans fighting with police, chanting racist things, embracing the likes of Tommy Robinson and the far right has been a persistent issue at least since I was a kid. It’s nearly every game - especially on away games.
I’ve always had the perception that being an England fan is more about hating other countries than it is about loving your own.
The match-going England fan is a huge part of why I don’t like the England national team.
At least it was much closer than Eurovision.
The whole ‘it’s just a minority’ argument has prevented English society from dealing with this issue. Go to any other country in the world and ask what they think of English fans. There are other countries with millions of fans but ‘a minority’ of hundreds (thousands?) don’t smash up their own cities and fight anything that moves
Goto an Italian town at night on the weekend, it’s mopeds, ice-cream and looking chic. Any English town it’s Stella and fighting. There’s your difference.
I seriously think if you do not sell alcohol to these people, a huge percentage of these issues would be reduced.
The problem is not alcohol per se. It’s the attitude towards alcohol, which is a cultural issue.
Go to France, Spain, Italy, etc and people (generally) enjoy alcohol responsibly and as a social thing. Here, it’s drink to oblivion and be as antisocial as possible.
That’s a complexed debate for another topic but the problem is not the alcohol. It’s like blaming cars for car crashes.