Better than God, not a chance.
Point being that despite all that he had to face a lack of affection which ultimately soon turned into abuse.
And did he struggle with his football because of it or wished to go elsewhere?
Other players who keep wanting to go there, be it stars or top talents?
That has nothing to do with what weāre discussing here. Weāre saying that Trent can expect the reception to start getting sour very soon if he keeps playing like his debut.
That actually provides context for why the fans are such cunts. They have sky high expectations and get toxic if they do not get everything they want all the time. As is the case with most group think, it very quickly coalesces into a pile on for one player in ways that often defy rationality.
Trent has arrived there with a reputation following him that has people all over salivating at the prospect of it going in a direction that will allow them to stick the boot in. If the Real fans go looking for a scapegoat for things not going great, and it is likely they will, and soon, its difficult to see how they fail to land on him.
Maybe Trent will have the same DGAF attitude as Bale. I think from what weāve seen of him so far though that seems unlikely.
I donāt get how Liverpool fans can be all holier than thou about Real fans theoretically booing Trent in the future when our fans were actually booing him just last month.
Seems weird to me.
We were speaking more in general about past players/examples, then we went back to specifically about Trent and what might happen in the future. Iād put a safe bet that it will go as with most big players who went there.
Trent was booed once after it came out he had closed negotiations and was leaving on a free.
Weāre talking about a fan base who will demand the head of any player if they are not 2 up against getafe within 20 mins. They make walshy look patient and measured.
Yes, but thereās a difference between things that might happen at some undefined point in the future and things that actually happened in the recent past.
Anyway, Iām not going to get into it. Everyoneās got their own position on the issue and itās been done to death.
Onwards and upwards ![]()
Yes, and he got so upset he left the country.

Iād be careful not to mix up a lot of things here. Stadium crowd, local crowd, tourist crowd, social media, media as in journalists, etc.
I canāt pretend I know every single aspect of that at Real Madrid (even if I do have a friend who is Spanish, a Madrid local, a Real fan, grew up close to the Bernabeu and lives in Croatia in the last few years).
I know their media is incredibly hands on with the tiniest of details (also pretty knowledgeable, it goes together with the huge influence on football in the last few decades, they literally pissed on football rivals on all levels, club and country).
That the Bernabeu can be pretty merciless at times, they had some poor moments like that goodbye with Raul as an example (but I blame the club more for that, there was no proper goodbye?!).
Pretty sure that itās not all that terrible.
They are the worldās biggest club so naturally the % (total, both in real life or online) of idiots increases.
My point is that Iāve read so much about this toxic aspect, yet I keep seeing most (and the best) players willing to go there, saying things like āReal is the only place Iād leave X forā, etc. And succeeding, even with the bad aspects that can come with it. Do they look to me like they donāt enjoy themselves the majority of the time? No. They get on with it. Big players at a big club.
I think a lot of us fans would be surprised to realize how players care less about the things that a lot of us care about. What do they want to do mainly (though not only!)? Improve towards the best teams, win and earn the most money as possible. Not particularly in that order. And Real wins. A lot. And yes, itās also a glamorous place and it sells.
I donāt have to be a fan of it or even like it to easily recognize it.
Iām not talking about struggling players who werenāt good enough and/or couldnāt handle the pressure of that stage. I donāt know, a Gravesen or whoever.
I also donāt think the fact that Trent knows only one club so far, had a fatherly figure as his most influential coach so far⦠plays such a part. What does that have to do with anything? Is he homesick like Jesus Navas? I donāt think so.
Itās more of a feeling of satisfaction that a portion of Liverpool fans would get if Trent fails or does a bit average there.
Iām not saying itās impossible, just that it rarely happens there with good players unless itās a total tactical stupidity (like their midfield once in the post-Makelele era when they fielded Figo-Beckham-Guti-Zidane). Bringing Trent into this Real side is nothing too wild. They need a RB, heās one of the best out there and they have the tools to make it function.
They can make mistakes even these days, mistakes are eternal, but they have learned a lot from that time. Funny, but their biggest rivals taught them (and still do) some big lessons how a team should work.
Spot on CardiffPete impression, tbf.
You read quickly, but I bet you didnāt.
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I didnāt read CardiffPete either, lifeās too short.
Makes sense then to compare us.
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Bring them all back!
Hereās another hard fact. Phil Neal won 8 league titles and 4 European Cups and is comfortably the best RB Iāve ever seen at Anfield.
We were talking about the best scousers of the PL era, not LFC players.
Yeah, I think most can agree that in the end (or maybe itās not the end!), he doesnāt displace Neal in Liverpoolās all time XI. But pretty sure Trent can live with it, being āone of the bestā in a certain position is mostly good enough also. For some, he might be in.
Gerrard Fowler Macmanaman then Trent (Owen isnāt scouse otherwise heād be in after Robbie)
āName the best Starting11 of the PL eraā
Only one rightback in a football team but Trent would still be one of the first names on the sheet because he is a standout in his position.
2 or 3 in midfield but Gerrard could still miss out because of the competition - unless you can only see through the red tinted glasses.