Fabio "FABINHO" TAVARES: 2022/23

[Limiescouse]

@Nikola

I genuinely forgot this - now that you’ve mentioned it, I remembered but I had to check, it was the season in which he scored just three league goals, two of them at Everton.

At the time most people put it down to Kuyt struggling in the shadow in the of the newly signed Torres, but at some point far in the future, either he or Rafa, I dont remember, commented on the off field issues

[Semmy]

@Nikola

while Fabinho’s performances are getting worse by the week. It might or might not be the reason behind it but I somehow managed to forget it.

the problems compound when the criticism comes hard & heavy from the keyboard warriors who seem to forget the issues that footballers have are unlike any other.

they’re living in a foreign country with close to no support system outside of the other players and the club, unless they bring family with them. losing a parent in the midst of all that could be devastating to someone. Then a poor run of form, doesn’t help

Anyone remember Maxi Rodrigues? Think he was in his prime when he left LFC to move back to S. America. but I don’t remember the circumstances.

[Limiescouse]

Had to make room for Borini

[ILLOK]

Maybe it’s because Bolsanaro lost the election.

[peterroberts]

Him and Ali are both Bolsonaro supporters , is that right ?

[ILLOK]

@peterroberts

Him and Ali are both Bolsonaro supporters , is that right ?

Aye.

Fabinho’s missus is very vocal in her support of him.

[peterroberts]

Sadness.

[WeeJoe]

@Mascot

It looks like Firmino is getting a new contract. Why? He has rarely been fit over the last 18 months.

His positivity and radiant smile?

@Mascot

With Hendo, I can see why the club would want to keep him around. He is a cultural leader and set the tone for the club. But I think we are at the point where there is not room for him and Milly

He has been a great leader, and a bona fide club legend. But feels like he’s lost that a bit. Comes on and screams at everyone while not able to get the basics right himself.

@Mascot

With Fabinho, I just don’t see how we sell him. He is on a long contract, at about £150k a week. For a player who looks finished as a midfielder. With this in mind I think I’d not play him much for the rest of this season, and hope that a good rest can get some energy back in his legs.

Yeah happy to hold onto him and pray/send good vibes, but don’t want him near the team in the meantime

[Hope.in.your.heart]

The point about his father’s death is an important one when considering his form. I didn’t remember this anymore.

He’ll still be useful for us, but for the time being, his focus is visibly off, so take him out of the fire line, and let others play, ie. Bajcetic, who does incredibly well so far.

[ILLOK]

His father died 15 months ago. That’s not the reason he can’t run.

[Hope.in.your.heart]

Death of his father 15 months ago affecting his form last season + fatigue due to the last intensive season in which he played nearly every game + now having a baby (Robbo was completely taken off any starting role for the same reason when he joined us).

The sum of these three factors goes surely a long way to explain his loss of form. And you can add to this that the rest of the squad has been poor too, so individual loss of form is compounded by a collective loss of form within the team.

[GermanRed]

How dare you protect him.

Need to get rid asap.

YNWA only matters if we’re winning on TAN

[Aurelio]

To be fair, he isn’t walking on his own. Can’t think of a few more who aren’t running anymore.

[1972]

This is silly talk really. Should players be kept well past their playing peak just to be loyal? There’s a right way to do things with players but the club comes first.

[GermanRed]

Salah past his peak compared to pre AFCON.

VvD past his peak since his injury.

Trent playing like a 35 year old.

Hendo looks as if last season has finished him.

Thiago well past his Bayern peak.

Why are we staying ‘loyal’ to them?

Thing is it doesn’t matter what you or I would do.

What matters is what those who let Sadio leave on their peak and those who decided to keep Naby and Ox 3 years past their peak think.

[mattyhurst]

I’d question the VVD one, he was excellent once he got used to it last season and part of the reason why our second half was good.

He looked poor early season but when he returned he looked like he was regaining some of that quality.

[Sweeting]

His fascist wife squirted out a sprog and now that he spends all his nights warming milk bottles and all his days browsing ‘Make Brazil Great Again’ memes he is too tired to run anymore. Do I have that right?

[RedOpium]

Sadio wanted to leave, no team should force players to stay that want a new challenge.

[gasband]

Right, if Sadio stayed and went on to be over the peak like you said of Salah, VVD blah blah blah, then the club will be blamed for not cashing in on players and allowed them to be over the peak. This is one thing I had suggested to the FM game developer, for years they neglected to include a quality that all football managers must have, Hindsight. Klopp - Hindsight 0, Football forum posters, Hindsight-world class.

[GermanRed]

@RedOpium

Sadio wanted to leave, no team should force players to stay that want a new challenge.

Fabinho extended his contract not long ago.

No player should be pushed out of the club if he doesn’t want to leave.

It’s actually one Klopps most important principles. Don’t push players out that you brought in by yourself.

That’s why Ox and Keita are still here.