Watched this yesterday. I hate the fact that god doesn’t get the recognition he deserves outside of our fanbase and ex pros. He was some player in the 90’s!!
I though his managerial career was a flop, but haven’t really followed it and it sounds like he’s actually done ok. I would love to see him managing in England. Hope someone gives him a shot! If Shrek and Lampard got repeated ‘shots’ despite being shit then I don’t see why god shouldn’t.
After Rooney and Roy Keane piled up on our captain Shearer waded in with his vitriol on Van Dyke and for good measure he has categorically said that we would win fuck all this season.
The last time he made a similar prediction we won the league.
This is his broken clock moment then. Thankfully, we always have the next seas-…
I’ll see myself out.
Souness and Crooks
when men were men. No red cards needed … or yellow.
Now VAR would have had all 3 off ![]()
https://x.com/England/status/1990179520960254051
https://x.com/bayer04_en/status/1990108823986765907
I’m happy for him. From his perspective, he made the right decision with the transfer.
Very happy for him. It seems we are in a good position. Quansah is playing week in week out and growing as a player. When Van Dijk hangs up his boots we can bring him back home for a reasonable sum if he is at the level we need. He won’t get to that level on our bench, he needs games, and it is a case of so far so good.
Is the answer “not taken the job”?
Signing Dickson Etuhu and Bobby Zamora?
Jokes aside, I think he said recently he would’ve involved the likes of Carra and Stevie more into telling him what the players are/were used to, in order to make it a more happy place.
Whether that would’ve changed anything notably… probably not.
More than Liverpool appointing Hodgson at the time, the saddest fact was the absolute shambles we were in as a club at the time.
I often went back in memory and thought what if we had beat Atletico in that semi-final (and then beat Fulham in the final?), perhaps Rafa would’ve stayed, but there were some serious issues happening on different fronts.
I think a lot of other, somewhat better managers, would’ve also struggled just like Roy did (and like the club overall did for a number of following years…).
His point was Carra and Stevie came to him as he was clearing out his office to offer their well wishes at which point Carra confessed that he thought the problem was he spent too much time trying to coach a team that did not need that after that many years of having worked under Rafa, and what he should have done was more a man management job. One, Roy clearly isnt that guy. Two, it does not seem believable that carra would have a clear opinion of what was going wrong and wait until it was too late to share it with Roy.
I was the assumption that’s all he did at Palace the final years he was there.
Yeah he’s an old school tracksuit on the training ground manager.
years after the Liverpool stint i heard from someone who Knew someone who knew someone kind of thing (Roy came to Aus for some brief corporate thing or something, not 100 percent sure) that Roy was absolutely football mad and one of the true gents, something about no matter his standing in the game, he was still out really late working with Junoir players , etc etc etc
hes real football the old fella.
kinda made me re assess our time with him as more a poor fit at the wrong time than Roy as this idiot who was useless.
hes years after us kinda speaks evidence to that, sometimes things in football are just not right.
Back when I was playing I had a manager who was asking us to do some things I was pretty uncomfortable with. I pulled him aside to question him and point out the ways it left us exposed. His response was that I was right but it was also irrelevant - if there was someone capable of repeatedly hitting that pass that would expose us then he wouldn’t be playing at this level, and if they did have those players then we’re basically fucked regardless of how we set up and play.
Liverpool and England are, with all due respect to 80s Swedish football, not Malmo. And they are not even a temporarily over achieving premier league yo yo side like Fulham. That was Roy’s biggest limitation. Not that his methods and ideas had a ceiling, because there are loads of good football people there doing great work whose ideas are just not compatible to the elite levels. It was that he treated raising that as a personal insult to him and his track record rather than just a basic reality.
It was a bad time and was not a good time for anyone to be taking the job and the degree of his struggles with us has to be put in that context. But he was never going to work and was never the right guy. In the end probably the best thing we can say about him is that we didnt waste a potentially good appointment by making it at a time when it was a no win situation at the club, and he was enough of the wrong guy that it made it easy for the new owners to sack him and move on from the G&H era
He’s apparently quite socialist is old Roy, I think he could have fit but his methods are suited to certain clubs. Roy’s tenure at Internazionale should have spoke what you needed to know.
Some good comments about Hodgson here. He had a very good career, a very long career, mostly at a mid level, falling short with Liverpool and England.
The frustration I felt when he was Liverpool manager has long since evaporated, but I have to say that I did not like the way he spoke about us. It was almost like he saw us as plucky underdogs.
I also vaguely remember Hodgson referencing Kenny almost as a lackey or assistant level, and it came across as tone deaf and full of hubris, given the standing of King Kenny.
Anyway, good luck to him in his retirement. I’m happy to acknowledge he was an old school football obsessive, and probably also a good bloke. And with that said, he was also a bad fit for us and we rightly ended it swiftly.
