Former players and managers - general discussion

In my opinion, he should get a job at a low level La Liga or a mid level La Liga 2 club. Don’t rush yourself, there’s Xabi, but there’s also Gerrard.

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Just my opinion, but after his Villa and Al-Ettifaq stints, I think his only chance of managing a Premier Leaguye club would be getting one promoted. His record is showing him up to be very limited

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Torres is probably still buzzing after his time alongside Jurgen… He may now want to follow a similar management learning curve

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Could start somewhere mid table.
Chelsea maybe?

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Noticed Luis Suárez was in the crowd last eve for the 76ers vs Heat. Apparently he’s still looking the business for Beckham FC but he can’t run. Not that running was ever his strongest attribute.

I think his point was that Torres may look at Xabi but also the cautionary tale of Gerrard. Better to start somewhere he can develop and make mistakes without too much pressure and trying to get straight to top.

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If he takes a step up to a second division side he isn’t doing it right.

To be fair Alonso picked well and has done well. To be fair Gerrard probably should have gone Championship. Scotland is a bit of a misnomer.

There are many routes and not all coaches’ evolutions are linear all the time.

The route Gerrard has taken means he isn’t going get anywhere near a top job.

You can point to Lampard but I assume he has some photos of owners in compromising positions.

And even he hasn’t cropped up as a name anywhere recently.

I wasn’t quoting anyone or referring necessarily to Gerrard, but more in general terms. There are choices and also options available, his career is still active though he might not pursue the top for years and decades.

These days it seems like the only options are the rare ones who start at the top and are successful enough to remain at the top, go on a linear trajectory towards the top or had a successful last job.

It’s absolutely clear that not everyone can get to the top and mistakes in evaluation are made on a daily basis in football (plus the fact that success is a result of also other factors, even if coaches are still massively important), but there are a number of careers that went through bad spells at least once or appeared at the top a bit unexpected.

It seems like one bad spell or appearing to some (and football public world is certainly not universally objective) like a bit of a d*ck is enough to be written off forever. Things don’t really work like that.

Some will really fail to get to the top, some will have an “imperfect path” but still get there.

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Good to see he came out the other side… All he needs to do now, is sort out his ‘potato head’ :0)

Former Liverpool star Danny Murphy opens up on cocaine addiction

Former Liverpool midfielder Danny Murphy has shared his struggles with substance abuse, revealing that he turned to cocaine and cannabis after hanging up his boots.

Murphy, who rose through the ranks at Crewe Alexandra before securing a move to Liverpool in 1997, enjoyed a successful career on the pitch, contributing to Liverpool’s FA Cup and League Cup victories during his seven-year stint. After leaving Anfield, he played for Charlton, Tottenham, Fulham and Blackburn and represented England nine times before retiring in 2013.

Now a respected pundit known for his appearances on BBC’s Match of the Day, Murphy has candidly discussed his battles with addiction and financial loss. Speaking on the Ben Heath Podcast, he said: “It was coke with me, I had a spell on cocaine and smoking some weed. The drink, I could live without it. I wasn’t an alcoholic. I could sit in a house with alcohol and not drink it.”

Detailing the grip addiction had on him, he continued: “For a while, I was addicted to cocaine, because I got to the point where I didn’t feel like I could do things without it, which was nonsense, of course I could.”

Murphy also described the nature of addiction. “But what you do, anyone will tell you, with any drug or addiction, you manage it initially,” he said. "You might do it once a week, twice a week, give yourself an extra third day and then it just quickly (spirals). When I got help I put myself around people who had been through it.

"I did a bit of both (therapy and group sessions to get help). I had done therapy previously before I had any problems actually when I first stopped playing because I thought it would be beneficial but I didn’t stick it out, which I maybe should have done.

"Therapy was good. It was good, you have got to be in, you have got to be prepared to go deep and not everyone is, because it’s an emotional rollercoaster therapy, it really is, especially if you have had a traumatic life.

"The group stuff is great, go to a few group meetings and stuff, whether it be alcohol or drugs or gambling. The biggest thing about being with other people who have had problems with it is you lose the shame and guilt.

"You know that shame of, 'Am I the only one who is so weak? Am I the only one who has let themselves get to that? There are guys that I have met who have had a lifetime of trauma because of certain addictions and stuff.

“I probably had a year of being in a world of pain and they kind of look at me and go, ‘You know what you should be really grateful you have only had a year’. And I’m like, ‘I’ll listen to that I’ll take the good.’”

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The continued bollocks he spouts on MOTD is conclusive proof of the long-term repercussions of substance abuse.

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I don’t which is worse alcohol addiction or drug addiction or they both equally bad.
I do like Danny Murphy’s commentary when he is on the radio. He does make good points some very good topics, player welfare etc and is quite fair in my humble opinion. I haven’t seen him on MOTD though.

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Can’t say I’ve noticed something strange or different about Murphy. Not that I could compare too much with his previous self because he left Liverpool early enough to avoid this massive internet attention, constant interviews and stuff. But I do think we’d be surprised to hear who else has or had these sort of issues.

Legend?

If anyone was wondering what Harry Kewell is up to these days, he’s also in Japan although a long way from my location.

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So does he mean Yokohama need to replace him early in the game and bring a new manager in mid match? :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

Taken the club back to the Belgian top flight after a successful last half of the season.

Congrats Dirk!!

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