Iāve never really rated him as high as some but I think thereās a good player there. Bring him home, let Slot go and happy days to start the post season with.
Iād be curious what Emery thinks our responsibilities were?
Presumably not to back down over the removal of the clause committing Villa to buying the player if he made the stated number of appearances.
It would the last point on my reasons to bullet Slot.
All squads have players on the fringes and all managers have players they donāt fancy. Klopp could have got more use out of Minamino and Shaqiri. I donāt think he gave Neco Williams a fair go, and young player like Carvalho was brought in for decent money and then barely looked at.
Put bluntly, it wasnāt Slotās job last year to give Elliott sympathy minutes and share out the pitch time like an under 10s team. His job was to win the league, and he did it. If he didnāt fancy Elliott, and Elliott didnāt do enough to catch his eye, then so be it. Itās hard to argue that he was wrong when he delivered the biggest prize.
Ironically, as we seem to be looking to move forward with Wirtz at number ten, then I think there is a role for Elliott as his back up, especially if we look to move on Mac Allister - the biggest reason why I think Elliott struggled to get minutes is that him and Alexis are both short and lack pace and physicality. You can get away with one of them in a three man midfield, but not two.
Fuck off Unai. You have done Harvey dirty and weāve been fucked over. Our responsibilities, to put it like that are to never allow these kind of option deals again without getting a big fat wad of cash up front and also not to let players chose clubs that arenāt willing to pay; Harvey could have gone to Germany and be playing all season while weād have banked actual cash.
Get him back at Anfieldā¦
Macca doesnāt lack physicality, he might execute it poorly or in a frustrating manner however heās our most physical player (after perhaps Salah). Also size isnāt the problem, pace is if your not good at reading the game. Itās how and what you do with your physicality that counts. A little shoulder nudge can do a lot to āput offā a giant.
This is a technical training thing imo and something we as a club have ignored for a very long time. Also fans prefer theatrics rather than efficiency, stats of duels won rather preventing an opponent getting the ball in the first place. Our whole team is soft. Just look at an effective press, it has nothing to do with physicality just execution.
What responsibility do we have? We negotiated a deal that the player wants, a deal that both us and them agreed on, and only for them to try exploiting a loophole to moral arm wrestle us to lower the price or else they will not play him. And ya right we have responsibility. This shit is villa and villa alone. Itās a club with no ethics.
I disagree.
The issue is caused by Villa absolutely. When the situation became clear Liverpool had a responsibility to do its best to act on the best interests of the player (he is still an employee of the club), they also had a responsibility to protect a valuable asset.
The club felt it was more important to play hard ball presumably so it does not happen again.
Liverpool could have mutually terminated the loan, removed the buy clause, negotiated a sale, increased the number of games before clause triggered, returned to club with Villa still paying his wages.
Instead we now have a young player who has basically not played for most of the year, and will likely be sold for less than half the price he might have been sold for 12 months ago.
The option the hierarchy chose was not in anyoneās interest.
Those options donāt really move the needle on getting him playing again given heās stuck between two managers who have both made a point of not using him and he is restricted from playing for anyone else this season.
The original issue here is the Newcastle appearance. Had Harvey not been used that day as part of the kitchen sink approach to salvaging a game that had got away from us then much more normal solutions would have been available to us and him in January.
Harvey Elliot has been treated appalling by Aston Villa and by our club. They wasted a whole season of his playing season. He hardly played 4 games.
Slot didnāt manage him well either by not giving him a chance playing some minutes.
Emery couldnāt fit Elliot in his team, so he is also has to take a major blame in the way he handled Elliot.
I donāt think our club can shoulder much blame here.
They agreed to defer Ā£30m cash so that Elliott could go to the club of his choice. Villa could not afford him last summer with their compliance issues - Liverpool did not not have to facilitate that move. The club could have dug its heels in, made Elliott go somewhere on a permanent deal. They tried to do Elliot and Villa a favour, and got it thrown back in their face.
There was a strong argument for bringing Elliott back in January, but I totally understand why the club, having had Villa fuck them over, decided to make them see the loan out. They are thinking longer term and a bigger issue than one players future.
For me though that is a choice.
Harvey is a good young player with lots of PL experience, professional and not disruptive. At the same time we had a manager moaning about lack of squad options, injuries, players club sold and fixtures pile up.
Even on the understanding he is a squad player surely it would have been better bringing him back.
Edwards/Hughes/Slot canāt have it both ways. They canāt say the the poor year was due to extenuating circumstances (listing excuses above) and at the same time we have such talent/depth that Harvey is so surplus that he wouldnāt get any minutes.
Looks very much like we cut our nose off to spite our face
We should have played Elliot more. JĆ¼rgen lamented himself that he should have played Elliot more in games.
Elliot was player of the tournament in the under 23s European tournament. He is very good footballer and he deserves have been given more opportunity to play football.
No he shouldnāt. I know Iām like a stuck record on this, but winning the league vindicates an awful lot of decisions.
I am on Harvey Elliotās side. I feel so sorry for him. Both clubs have alot to answer for. 
Not really, pretty sure there is a middle ground here where Elliot gets more playing time and we still win the league comfortably.
Get him back at Anfieldā¦get him on the pitchā¦he would run wherever and hassle the opponentā¦