Jürgen Klopp - Liverpool Legend

Using 30 over million for Cody Gakpo to deal with PSV is not very difficult. However, convincing Brighton to take a deal for Caicedo or convincing Benfica to deal with us for Enzo Fernandez is where the top professionals in the Sporting Director trade earn their money. Similarly, convincing other clubs to take punt on players that is unreliable for us is also where the top pros in the trade do.

The departure of Michael Edwards has inevitably caused us dearly especially in terms of out-goings. And it is pretty clear that Julian Ward leaving after just one year at the post can either mean Klopp has over-ruled their professional experience so many times that he has enough of that shit or he got asked to leave amicably due to being inept.

If it is the former, the only way the club can prosper is for the Chairman of the board or CEO of the company to put his fucking foot down and tell Jurgen in no certain terms to trust the transfer team’s recommendations. However, we got a fucking weak Chairman/CEO who only opens the chequebook at times and may not be involved in the day to day running of the club itself which also includes mediating between the Manager and the Transfer team.

Klopp is a manager that has a great footballing philosophy. However, the renewal process of a team is something he might not be too familiar with given how Dortmund was always in a re-building phase when Bayern comes along.

If LFC is to succeed, the owners need to find the right characters to fill up the Sporting Director post. The right character will need the strength to tell Klopp that he is wrong in wanting certain players using statistics and trust the scouting team’s recommendations. We have all heard stories on how he didn’t want Sadio Mane and Mohammed Salah for Julian Draxler and Mario Gotze. Both of the players that he wanted all didn’t do too well now.

Edwards was in charge when the needed outgoings stopped. Origi, Phillips and Ox, and to a lesser extent Shaq and Taki, all found themselves in a situation where we were trying to move them on and our hard bargaining saw all potential suitors back away leaving us stuck with players we wanted to replace or get off the books. Some for more than 1 additional year. The result was a bloated squad with too many players earning good money not earmarked for big contributions. That cut off important operational revenue, blocked the opportunities for new signings and allowed players to be comfortable while not producing. For sure there were arguments for those decisions, especially with the odd market during the pandemic, but the totality of the situation was a problem and it all happened on Edwards’ watch.

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Mike Edwards left in the start of summer 2022. So we can assume the handover started 1 month before eh?

Origi left on a free which is a deal that suited everyone.
Nat Phillips signed a new deal so that we can prevent the defenders fiasco that happened earlier.

Ox? He got injured for 113 days in 1st half of the 20/21 season. Who would buy an injured player that might not pass his medical?

Shaqiri and Taki? Shaqiri was signed at 13th July 2018 and was sold to Lyon for a fee at July 2021, recouping some money back. Taki was signed in Jan 2020 and sold in June 2022 for a fee that actually got us a profit and was instrumental in our journey to the FA cup.

Guess what happened in his watch ain’t so bad after all!

You just described ways we protected our investments on players we wanted to sell and couldnt.

Precisely, our investments were protected so well under Michael Edwards. Mike Edwards has just left us in the start of the summer window which is about 6 months back? And take a look at our squad now.

We are stuck with players who is aging so badly that nobody wants them even if we give it to them for 1 pound ( see Milner and Hendo), we are stuck with 2 players who will be going on a free transfer,giving us zero pounds to recoup any of the transfer fees back especially for Naby Keita, we are also stuck with Arthur Melo for another 1/2 season who hasn’t even make a single league appearance for us. Then we have the young boys that need a season or two at a club below us where they are afforded the luxury to learn the trade at midfield without too much scrutiny going to them.

Is this the season when Dortmund had so many injuries and then came back strongly after the mid season.

We were in a far better place than they were if it is.

eek. Sam Wallace is a pretty good journalist.

Behind a paywall and I’m not subscribing to the Torygraph. But I suspect it’s some bollocks that’s based on Carra’s comments after the last game

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It really doesn’t mean anything. Lijnders’ growing influence has been already established as factual by now. He’s running the training sessions but he has been doing so since he has returned from NEC years ago and he certainly wouldn’t be implementing a new tactical setup without Klopp’s knowledge and approval. His input regarding the transfers can’t be questioned either as no one can claim that Diaz and Nunez have been flops, quite the contrary.

Point is that whether or not he shares a greater portion of the blame is anyone’s guess. It could be a coincidence or it could be that he’s indeed steering Klopp towards a wrong direction. We’ll never know for sure. The one thing about Lijnders that seemed odd and off was the book but that was a non-issue.

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Haha Dan Kennett has literally said what it says. So not bollocks, Wallace is a decent journalist.

“Breaking ranks” :rofl:

If you read the book you’d know all that anyhow.

It’s in a published book :rofl:

:joy: well if Dan Kenneth/Sam Wallace say so it must be gospel

I don’t think that really says anything that we don’t already know, does it?

Well I didn’t know we were signing Nunes and that makes 4/5 Ljinders signings. But if Sam says so :man_shrugging:t2:

So Ljinders is the real manager at the club…just like Buvac was before he left?

Gotcha.

I’m pretty sure they are more informed than you. Keep burying your head in the sand.

A manager comes in, improves nothing, gets worse and is a public embarrassment. His demise is obvious. Hello Roy.

A manager comes in, improves things, plays great football but ultimately wins nothing and things go down-hill. You have to say goodbye to BR.

A manager comes in, revolutionises the club, is an utter public joy, brings the greatest sense of unity to the club, wins everything and makes grown hetro men contemplate their life choices but starts a season badly, what should we do? He has THAT much in the bank that we just watch last season’s episodes of Goldbridge. Will be a long time and a hell of a high cliff to fall off before he “should” go. Questioning his choices seems a little strange as they’ve worked so well in the past. Quite the opposite of Einstein’s famous saying about insanity.

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May you have a happy retirement. Louis Van Gaal.

The same journalists who are so well-informed they know nothing about our transfer dealings and yet make so many erroneous claims?

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