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I’m almost at the point of wanting him to stay, just for the outside chance of watching wankers like this have to walk back their ridiculous fucking hyperbole
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Come on this a strawman. I haven’t seen anyone blame Slot for half these things. He isn’t being blamed for missing Guehi or signing Isak, every bit of criticism I have seen from anyone on that has been directed at Hughes.
What he is being criticised for are, mostly, things that he is responsible for. It’s not the signing of Isak and Wirtz he’s being “dragged over the coals” for it’s the failure to come up with any cohesive plan for how to use them. It’s not selling Quansah, it’s freezing Quansah out and publically lambasting him in a fashion he has done with no other player - despite overseeing plenty be consistently worse than Quansah ever was - so that there really wasn’t much option but to sell him, it’s not terminating Salah’s deal it’s letting his relationship with Salah break down so much that he requested to leave the club early.
Hughes and Edwards are regularly criticized although it is harder to do when it’s obviously not as visible what their role is.
I don’t know why this seems to be springing up now that Slot is just some dude who all of this is happening to, rather than his attitude, management, communication style and lack of tactical nous are a direct contributor to our struggles.
Over the last 14 months we’ve rapidly seen a complete demolition of a decade’s worth of cultural and structural progress. Slot is not some helpless man stuck in the middle of it all he’s one of the chief causes of it. Hughes and Edwards of course have contributed, so have the players, but the issues are most clear with what is happening on the field. All the issues come from there, and that is his domain and responsibility.
We won the league first season which is obviously fantastic but this year has been a catastophic. Slot deserves every bit of criticism he is getting.
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I’ve seen plenty of blame directed at Slot for those things. Only today a lad in the Konate thread is suggesting that the real reason Konate is leaving is dissatisfaction at Slot, and all the talk of money, the comments from the club and from Konate, and whole fucking dance he’s been playing with Real Madrid for the last year is just cover for his dissatisfaction with the manager, who by the way had the temerity to continue to play him last season while he looked like he’d forgotten what a football was. That’s how silly it’s got.
I’m not suggesting he is without loads of blame for the season, or even that he shouldn’t be sacked. But I can’t help but feel sorry for him that he finds himself the lodestone for every bit of criticism that people want to fire at the club. I think that is largely because in the absence of any public accountability from Hughes, he is left to front issues that he isn’t responsible for. His role has been changed from manager to Head Coach, a lot of the responsibility and influence that Jurgen had now sits elsewhere by design, and yet that is not reflected in how the club communicate.
There is also the relevant question that I’ve asked a few times and never got a direct answer to - for the people who think the change in job title is significant, what specific things do they thing Slot is not responsible for or has no influence over that Jurgen was at the beginning of his tenure?
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But they don’t; they just carry on with whatever fresh outrage deserves their ‘hot take’.
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TBH that’s probably the best thing he’s done this season.
You’re expecting reasoned points debated in a civil manner?! ON X?!?!
He’s certainly not taking responsibility for engaging with the fans..
Oh but it used to be like that - academic twitter was great!
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It was legitimately so paradigm changing in the way academics spoke about their work that in forward thinking universities it changed how tenure was determined.
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Egs? I’m not so familiar with the US system where ‘tenure track’ seems to be a thing but was it used as a legitimate source for measuring societal reach/impact? I liekd it because you could follow interesting academic debates - eg public health in covid - as an outsider. My wife, a professor, also used it for goss and fluff within her field.
Just exactly what you’re talking about. Tenure pays lip service to things like service and teaching excellence, but it has always been driven primarily by publishing. While publishing can be a key driver of grant funding, one of the things it was supposed to deliver was exposure and effective dissemination of one’s work. What some institutions realized is that twitter, or social media at large, could actually satisfy that outreach goal in interesting new ways and so started to consider that as part of the evaluation.
I know a few academics now who make their living from the social media presence and retain their academic position (often negotiated on much lower level of responsibilities and salary) primarily for the gravitas it gives their social media presence.
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how do you know, that it wasnt Slot’s decision to sell Diaz and Quansah, or spend loads on Isak and Witz?
the EPL winning manager and manager of the year Arne Slot might have told Edwards and Hughes this who i want rid of and who i want to sign as any expense.
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The only way we will know this is when Edwards or Hughes writes an autobiography after they leave this club…
I want Slot gone but I definitely wouldn’t trust Hughes or Edwards word any more than Slot’s. If Hughes had an autobiography written where he blamed Slot I’d be more inclined to believe that it’s just another example of nobody taking accountability at the Club these days.
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Slot made a big deal of wanting more control in the final third. That was why we went out and got Wirtz. We do know that money was a reason we were not resigning or extending Diaz, but that did not explain selling him when we did. What would explain it?
Well there is the post-facto reporting that Slot was against it and Hughes did it against his wishes. This is not well sourced at all and seems more like a reach for an explanation for why we’ve struggled (Slot was screwed by Hughes).
The other bit of poorly sourced reporting, but an angle that makes a LOT more sense, is that the move was connected to Slot’s interest in more final third control - Diaz out and Wirtz in. There are a group who insist that we fucked up by not getting a like for like replacement for Diaz without consideration of the likelihood that this WAS the exact evolution of the side Slot was looking for.
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Then please explain the £250k extension for Cody ‘cut in on the right foot then blast it past the far post’ Gakpo, Mr Chatra.
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I cant see the bonus payments been too high this season…
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Yeah, but the trade-off so far is not worth it. We did not have any more control but lost the pace and intensity that made us great.