Liverpool FC - Pre-season (Part 2)

Giving a rollicking to a seasoned professional and players who have been in and around the 1st team, i.e Rio ok, but rollicking Will Wright in his 1st start, no.

He could easily have been more encouraging and Curtis never struck me as that type of person, i.e rollicking he always came across as a cajolling type of player.

Also, as I said in a previous post I am pro Curtis, but just think he looks off it, hopefully only pre-season tiredness.

Because I’m going off the reporting that our ability to do more deals after Barcola would be heavily impacted by the outlay for him.

Yes theoretically we could try and sell Mac Allister and replace him, but that’s a lot of work to do on top of grtting a winger, CB and possibly RB. He’s also a player Iraola hasn’t even had a chance to look at yet. He probably would like to assess him before signing off on letting him go. It was only 12 months ago that some people were saying he was the best midfielder in the world (not me, but it wasn’t an uncommon shout).

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I mean, everyone has a limited budget but the media are speculating.

Ultimately if we can´t do the hard work in terms of the improving the team/squad we have no business aspiring to be at the top.

Well people say all kinds of rubbish. Iraola may but I am sure he is also wary of starting the season with a substandard squad and being expect to finish top 3.

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@Limiescouse, if that is you, from now on you address me as “sir”, or “Mr Jabu”, based on seniority. no more of this @jabu shit. I am your elder.

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Surely depends what the bollocking is for though right? There’s time and place for both carrot and stick.

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true, he actually came off as a bit unhinged. what ever he was trying to communicate fell through the cracks of emotion. you go from giving advice to being told to calm down yourself

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But you could also argue that selling a midfielder who has been a starter in a team that won the Premier League, the World Cup and made another final is weakening the squad. And this is in the last 15 months its not like it was a decade ago.

Unless Iraola is banging on the table that he needs a new midfielder I just don’t see it as being top of our list of things to do.

Iraola is a coach who I believe has been given a job of improving what we have. We don’t physically have the players to do it in the winger roles nor in defence. In midfield we should, at least theoretically, be able to get a much better performance out of them than Slot was able to last season. They’re all signficantly better players than we saw last year.

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To be fair to Hughes Harvey was given the choice to go to Leipzig but he chose to stay in the PL and was very unlucky that Emery wasn’t told that Villa were going to shoehorn a loanee from Liverpool.

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He’s got no room to be bollocking anyone. Was anyone bollocking him for barely putting in one challenge for the ball or strolling back when Wrexham won the ball? Or not even bothering to jump when marking the cross that Wrexham should have scored from in the second half? Jones puts in an effort when it suits him but team effort isn’t his forte.

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i would also argue that getting a fit and engaged macca and adding nyoni to the midfield is actually good business. people forget how good macca is when he is engaged (see the wc) like in previous seasons. dude has one bad season and he is not up to it anymore. he covered the most distance in most games for argentina during the world cup.

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Got to wonder if that particular bit of information Liverpool have put out there themselves in order to to keep expectations from selling teams in check.

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What I don’t understand is being from Austria which being a European country, you would think the rules would be different for him in getting a work permit. The other thing is with the games he will have played in preseason, do the points he needs to accumulate not count?

My understanding of the Ndukwe work permit thing is that he doesn;t qualify
to play for a [Premier League side because a player must receive a Governing Body Endorsement (GBE) from the FA, which a club then uses to obtain a work visa from the Home Office.

To qualify automatically, a player needs to score 15 points across several categories or meet senior international appearance criteria. I’m not sure that if Austria gave him a full international selection he would then immediately qualify. But otherwise he needs to get experience in a top European league to gain more qualifying points.
His fellow 18-year-old Mor Talla Ndiaye seemingly has not faced the same restriction because the club likely utilised one of their few ESC (Elite Significant Contribution) slots when he arrived but we have precious few of them. What is unsure is if we sell or loan a player with an ESC slot to another European club whether their ESC can then be transferred to Ndukwe. I can’t imagine the backroom staff aren;t working on something to get around the situation.

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the entire midfield struggled last season, ryan was not himself, neither was macca. a lot of it had to do with tactics, slot ball and the team just being so unfit. Under iraola, it will be a different unit at least fitness wise because the whole world knows AI is a klopp clone when it comes to fitness.

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Well, the club can compel him to enroll into a special physical training program (say, a Klopp-style brutal training program) to get him into shape. Don’t forget that he barely played for an entire season.

He will certainly be better after getting into shape.

And if Iraola is already doing what I just said, we can only wait. Getting into shape takes time.

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That’s down to this “crazy little thing called Brexit”.

No, none of that is enough; he can only earn points for it in one of the higher-tier leagues—or with the national team, etc.

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Noticed Ramsey got an extended game time last night after not so many minutes previously be intrigued to see the minutes after the 3 games.

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And he made the WC ‘best players…’ team too. Didn’t look like the Mac of last season at all. If we can get the WC Mac back then he’s going nowhere.

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Cheers mate still think they are a set of convoluted rules which do not help anybody and Brexit is to blame for that as @livvy pointed out for another reason for this mess.

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