I like the way the midfield is shaping up. We have 5 good senior players and 5 good young players. Yes, we’ll have to rely on the young ones at some point this season, but so what?
When did we ever have 5 young midfielders as good as Jones, Elliot, Carvalho, Bajcetic and Morton? I’m pleased we’ll get to see them in action, not worried. There’s some real quality in that group and it would be a shame if we had a manager who was afraid of testing it.
5 subs helps. It’s tough for the teenagers to play 90 minutes, less so for them to play 60.
Yep, I would. I don’t see a PL team come even close to having such depth in midfield that their 5th,6th,7th choice midfielders are Elliott, Jones and Milly. Only one team in world football could better that and that’s RM.
I agree with what was said earlier that we don’t have a lack of numbers problem in midfield but we have two injury prone players in Hendo and Keita that could cause us to dip into those reserves early. That’s the main risk we carry with this squad.
he was signed just like any footballer with the club knowing that injury is part and parcel of the sport. He got injured playing for the club - he wasn’t injured fucking about skiing or some other leisure activity.
He deserves his wages - just in the same way as you would deserve them if you were injured playing for the club.
He’s a positive influence within the dressing room and on young players especially.
IF he hadn’t got injured in the UCL then with the form he was showing prior to that no one would really dispute anything.
It’s not like he is refusing to play and taking home his wages. Injury ruined his career and it happened whilst with us and on the pitch.
That’s how I feel. It’s not so much quantity but durability of the more established players that is the worry. One has already done a hamstring and I’d personally include Thiago in with Hendo and Keita as likely to miss games with knocks and strains.
Even if just one of those three was as durable as Milly has been up to now then I think we’d all feel more comfortable.
And now there goes Jones for “2-4 weeks” but has yet to see a specialist so it could well be longer.
We’re one Keita knock/strain/illness away from starting the season with our same usual three backed up by a 37 year old who’ll also probably be our back up at right back and a couple of teenagers.
All whilst having a net spend of around £12m-£15m (before we potentially sell Phillips). Going to be a lot of 4-2-4 at this rate.
You’ve taken it to quite the extreme by saying they’ll play 40 games. Also Elliott would have played significantly more than he did had he not broken his leg and Carvalho played 37 times last season.
He’s a very exciting young player but he’s still raw and inexperienced at the top level. He had a tough injury last year and that really stunted his season last year.
He’s capable of being a starter but I still think he needs some nurturing and not too much expectation heaped on him just yet. The worry with the injuries is if we’re forced to play him more often than we’d like or can’t give him the break if form or fitness falter.
I plucked a number that seemed high but not impossible to imagine. And Carvalho played Championship football, not Premier League and Champions League, big difference that.
But I hope both get plenty of managed game time and aren’t forced into being overplayed out of necessity. It’s a cautious perspective on our midfield depth, not a dig at any particular players.
It’s a dig at our squad building, my point is that we have planned the squad to look this way and that the manager buys into it. You’re free to be worried about it and that’s a fair enough opinion but this isn’t accidental and Elliott/Carvalho aren’t your run of the mill teenagers, they’re both legitimately elite talents who will both be full internationals for England and Portugal in the next couple of years.
Personally I think it is exciting we are encouraging their involvement. Carvalho might be coming from Championship football but 've watched him for a long time, he’s going to be a revelation and used extensively.
Sometimes injuries can also be a blessing in disguise and opens the door for one of our immensely talented young players. Otherwise… Trent wouldn’t have become the player he is now tbf. And i still remember the panic here when it happened.
If Klopp trusts them and thinks they are ready, we should have learned to trust by now. We will be fine imo.