Losing the midriff "wobble" or the TAN diet/exercise thread

An interesting study from China - Time Restricted Eating (TRE) combined with a Low Carb Diet (LCD) provides the best model for weight loss in this study.

LCD, 8-h TRE, and their combination significantly reduce body weight and subcutaneous fat

TRE yields more benefits on visceral obesity and cardiometabolic outcomes than LCD

Combination intervention induces more weight loss compared with LCD or TRE alone

  • Worth noting that the LCD was restricted to 100 gm of carbs per day in this study. An accepted rule of thumb for a LCD (in the West) is 50 gm of carbs or less per day.
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No need for a great bod, just confidence

Finally got my arse into gear yesterday after way too long being lazy.
5k treadmill run/walk.
Sloth pace, but to be expected after so long off it.

First one back is always the hardest mentally.

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Keep it up,you’ll be back in no time.

I could be wrong but didn’t you used to do some serious/extreme “hiking”

Broke 30 minutes today for another treadmill 5k, so making progress.

Aye I did but finished with all that now.
Boxes are ticked, only interested in leisurely stuff now to keep healthy.

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Leisurely stuff and you’re doing 5k in under 30 mins from the off.I’m busting my bollox to do 5k in 30 mins.
Fcuk you and the horse you rode in on. :unamused:

was hammering the bevy every saturday night for a long time,

then 1 w/e i overdid it, drank the Friday night, the Sat night, and the Sunday night (that was particulary bad)

Mrs Bonus wasnt happy, nor was my stomach and as i seemed to have constant heartburn!

decided to cut back on the drink…

i only 3 beers on a saturday night now,

i eat loads of fruit, (melon, pineapple, grapes, kiwi, banana) for lunch

my running has got better, gone from struggling to do 5.5 miles,

to running 7.2 miles with ease in around 56.30,

and i feel my leaner, (current weight 81.9Kg), plus the heartburn is gone

Now looking to run a local half marathon in Febuary!

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I’ve started doing grip training whilst watching the reds. I used to relieve tension with a few beers, but squeezing grippers and other pieces of equipment is my new crutch to get me through the games.

The way this season is going I’ll have forearms like Popeye by the end of the season.

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Stop running downhill on the thing will you.

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Today was the first day I’ve been able to run/sprint without pain in four years :smiling_face_with_tear:!

Long stint of patellar tendonitis followed by long rehab (with multiple relapses).

Very good going that is.

Last time I weighed 81 kg I hadn’t yet grown pubes

thanks.

managed to better that time over the same distance fhe night!

Has anybody had experience or know anybody that has tried with the new weight loss injections - Wegovy and Saxenda?

The claimed results and minor side effects seem very impressive if true. The cost is very high though.

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No, never heard of them but I’m a bit conservative in my weight loss. Sweat and diet. Theory and doing are worlds apart though.

Sounds a bit like an ebike (Cheaty bike). We seem to be happy to constantly chase shortcuts. All the rage at work right now but no chance I’m buckling for a while yet. Even got one guy claiming he’s got a half fat one. The banter has been awesome to be fair.

I’ve heard of it. My ex who is a GP told me that she has prescribed it to some patients in Sydney. It helps with appetite suppression. But while you take it you better work your arse off and lose the weight, because when you come off it, if you haven’t lost enough weight, the hunger comes back.

She said it’s quite effective though. Myself, I hate injections so that’s a no-no for me

They are genuine game changers. They are the first real positive clinical outcome from the nearly 3 decades of research in the neuroendocrine regulation of energy balance and bioenergetics.

They are not short cuts. They directly address the biological reasons people struggle to maintain the necessary calorie deficit for long enough to lose weight. The value in these is not just the weight loss per se, but the subjective assessment of the patients who report much less difficulty sticking to their diet than normal.

To the degree that the difference between an overweight person and normal weight person is how well calibrated their biological feedback system in regulating appetite, this class of drugs equalizes that.

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THIS is the absolute key. You have to maintain the caloric deficit. Weight loss isn’t linear so some weeks it’ll be less than others but for long term body transformation maintaining the deficit is key. These injections do the job of appetite suppression very effectively

Important nuance that it’s not so much appetite suppression, as that frames it in a somewhat short cut like perspective. It is restoring the normal state of being able to eat a meal and be satisfied with it. So many people who struggle with their weight just do not experience that and so continue to engage on food seeking behavior to quench what is largely unquenchable. These drugs take that away from these patients and thus set them up for much better success in controlling their diet.

If inability to stick to diet is a factor, then under that metric I would qualify!

That said I don’t disagree that there are people that need serious help. Some on a dietary focus, others on lifestyle choices for example.

But my point is that as a species we are far too content and too quick to look at a shortcut. Taking a tablet rather than addressing to root cause for example. I’d even argue that some medical practices promote that thinking as well. We can’t hit profits by advising people to self help now can we?

You misunderstand. That is one of the best medical examples there is of directly addressing the root cause rather than the symptom.

So I would flip your statement to say that as a society we have too long treated obesity with a puritanical attitude where people who fail do so because they are less good and less worthy. It’s been over 3 decades since obesity started being acknowledged as a significant medical concern and the issue has only got worse in that time and so this attitude clearly isn’t working. The idea that people need to learn to help themselves ignores that most people who fail are trying to help themselves but have biological obstacles that are not realistic to expect people to overcome on the long term. These drugs provide that support in a way that better enables people to help themselves.

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