Losing the midriff "wobble" or the TAN diet/exercise thread

I think the question is too anthropomorphic to really make sense. Substances you think dont align with the response you want from your body doesn’t mean your body “doesnt like them”.

Your body is very good at switching among fuels. You will burn body fat stores as a default and quickly switch to whatever gets added to your blood stream as a result of digestion. So, the principal thing your body does when you eat sugar is increase a measure called respiratory quotient by switching to burning that sugar so it doesn’t need to be stored.

I wouldn’t worry about the midriff too much as there’ll be a pill to sort it soon enough. In fact there already are products (I would call them the 1st generation) that have been approved by the FDA in the US. Currently used as part of a regimen for the diabetes/obesity/heart disease areas, I think it is only a matter of time before it goes more main stream. As the follow on generations are developed, I would imagine in the next 3-10 years gluttons and slots will all be good to go!

Cheers, what about something which isn’t a “fuel” but something the body doesn’t recognise or like. I think of some of the stuff that gets shoved into processed food in particular. The body must respond to it in some manner.

The role of endocrine disruptors in weight gain is an attractive idea. With how wide ranging a role the endocrine system plays in regulating energy balance there are no end of candidate chemicals to look at, but the evidence base is still pretty preliminary. I think it’s going to end up being one of those areas like genetics where there is universal recognition that it plays a role, but no magic bullet you can point to that allows us to say “address this factor and we’ve solved it”. My own personal take, is that even once we’ve developed a far greater understanding of the area its still going to be way down to the list of actionable things an individual can do to manage their weight.

But even with this model, we’re not talking about fat being used as a storage depot, like burying nuclear waste underground. It’s more a case of hormonal process being affected and the net effect being caloric surplus.

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Thanks, I think you’re right in that there’s certainly a genetic link along with various other factors all in play making weight gain easier for some and / or difficult to shift. I’ve also read that a reduction in testosterone plays a role in weight gain in men as we age.

It’s not magic - it’s proven science. Calories in / Calories out does not work in the long-term even if you produce a sustainable caloric deficit. That is why it has been such an abject failure as a lasting weight control method. This guy explains it much better than I ever could. (2 min video)

So you’re saying that if you burn more calories than you eat you lose weight? Heretic, burn him!

Watch the clip - it would be such a shame to waste all the efforts and gains you have made over the last months. There are numerous more videos by this guy and other eminent researchers. Science has moved on.

I know how my body works. I know what makes it put weight on and I know what makes it lose weight. Nobody on this earth knows my body better than me (sadly)

Calorie counting works absolutely and reliably for me. Might fly in the face of some scientists’ theories but the evidence of it’s efficacy is undoubtable.

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Ok

Hope that it works permanently for you this time. Good luck.

He makes a claim that he provides no support for and is not supported by the evidence then goes on to offer a bad application of what CICO means as evidence that it doesn’t work.

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I don’t because I know it won’t. I won’t keep it up. But when I do, it does. It’s not the diet and strategy that doesn’t work, it’s my commitment to it. It’s like learning French, I could and I know how, I just can’t be arsed. Cooking and eating what I want makes me put on weight. Regulating that and doing more exercise reverses that process. To me, it’s very simple.

As a matter of interest (feel free to tell me to mind my own business) is your username a little clue as to your participation in this thread?

I have been asked that before on here - I am 6’6 in my socks - and have an enormous tallywhacker - the nickname just stuck for some reason??

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It is a 2 minute, basic video, outlining the science. He has numerous videos (as do many other Doctors, Phd’s and scientists) on the subject - all available for free on Youtube.

I am not going into a long and detailed explanation here - the research is thankfully out there if you have the inclination to look.

You understand why I asked the question though :slight_smile: All good.

Hung like a racehorse? Good on you!

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And bizarrely still not the tallest person on this forum. @Icedagger is 6’9” IIRC.

It’s like land of the giants here. :joy:

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Reminds me of a night out in Pontefract. Spent the night in the shadows and looking up.

Complete tangent here. I’m 6’1 and of reasonable build. Never suffered from shortitis and never understood the concept. Then I walked into a bar in the US on the evening of the diet supplements, steroid and exercise convention. Bloody hell I felt like a leprechaun!

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You are remembering correctly

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I only remember that because of the Chewbacca dancing gif someone posted after you mentioned it and my subsequent joke at the expense of @Alright_Now :joy:

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