It wont.
They cant go to the sport of arbitration.
This needs to be resolved by end of the season.
They cant just dump City in the below leagues as its not fair on other teams. The point deduction needs to be something like -100 points so they are down before end of season.
It canât go to CAS but it can end up in the High Court in England but that would only be on the basis that there was a procedural irregularity or any sanction was wholly disproportionate. The Courts wonât interfere with the findings of fact.
Do you think weâll see a swift conclusion, if as has been said they have been found guilty
Yes but swiftness is relative. By the end of this season though.
Can anyone see something being announced before the end of the year including letâs say a 70 points deduction which would in theory give them a chance to stay up.
This is the thing about this, the High Court would have to say the sanction was wholly disproportionate and considering the PL has set out its rules and has precedence in cases it would be a tough one for the High Court to find against the PL.
Thereâs no remedy in simple points deductions as it means that they might go down but next season they are back uo again. 10 years of cheating football just reduced to one season in a lower league and then they are back. How is that justice or deterence? Plenty of clubs might think its worth spending nine months in the Championship if cheating can bring you a hatful of trophies and PL titles.
It has to be serious and that means having the balls to throw the book at them and offer a suitable warning to ALL clubs that financial fixing isn;t to be tolerated.
BTW, I donât understand why some think stripping City of titles and re-allocating them to the club in second place is somehow not feasible. Declaring those seasons null and void is monstrously unfair on the clubs who honestly worked their backsides off those years, not to mention their fans. Was all their effort worthless somehow. Why should it be negated just because one team cheated. And the fans, do they get their tickets refunded for being forced to cough up for a null and void event?
I understand why second place in the Tour de France wasnât unpgraded when Armstrong was outed, because the like of Ullrich, Basso, Kloden were also heavily implicated in cheating. But in Athletics, if a competitor is disqualified for whatever reason, the second place athlete gets the gold medal instead. Itâs quite simple and works for them, so why shouldnât football do the same and make those cheaty seasons bonafide?
They will have a deduction to give them no chance of staying up.
Never know it could be 100 point deduction per season the next few seasons to condemn them to league 2
Its feasible but it would feel hollow. The players, manager, staff, fans etc have missed their day in the sun. It would look good on the roll of honour but disappointing.
Sky Sports News understands that the process around Manchester City case is moving to the appeal stage, after reports claimed that most of the charges against the club for breaking Financial Fair Play rules were found to have been proven
Chief Correspondent
Monday 28 September 2026 11:22, UK
Manchester City have been embroiled in legal disputes with UEFA and the Premier League for 12 years and they are so determined to clear their name, and the 115 charges case is so big, that it could still be years before the saga is concluded.
According to reports last week, an independent tribunal has reached decisions in the case and Sky Sports News understands the process is moving to the appeal stage.
In 2014, City paid a ÂŁ49m fine for breaking UEFAâs financial fair play (FFP) rules and in 2020 they were given a two-year European competition ban and fined âŹ30m (ÂŁ25.7m) for breaking the rules again.
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Miguel Delaney, Riath Al-Samarrai and Jack Rosser joined Sunday Supplement to discuss the latest in the Manchester City charges case
The ban was overturned at the Court of Arbitration for Sport, where City were cleared of disguising owner funding as sponsorship income.
That victory may give City fans hope they can win again when their Premier League appeal is heard by a new three-person panel.
If the appeal goes against them they will not be able to go to CAS, but there is the strong possibility that Cityâs owners would turn to the High Court to clear their name.
In 2014, City chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak said he would spend ÂŁ30m on the best 50 lawyers in the world and sue UEFA for the next 10 years rather than lose the FFP case.
In his open letter to City fans on Saturday, he sounded just as determined as he was 12 years ago: âThe Premier League process still has a long way to run, and our confidence and intent in proving the clubâs innocence is just as strong as when this beganâ.
Al Mubarak means what he says and there is so much at stake that City will do whatever it takes to clear their name.
In the meantime, the most high-profile sports lawyers are keeping their thoughts to themselves until the full judgment is released. Fridayâs leak, which led to reports that City had lost on 114 of the 115 charges, may well end up being used as evidence in Cityâs legal fight to prove that, in their opinion, the whole process has not been fair and impartial.
At the heart of all the legal challenges City have faced is the question of how they became so big and successful so quickly. Cityâs owners have been accused of putting too much money into the club and disguising it as sponsorship income. City have always insisted they have irrefutable evidence to prove they did not break the rules.
City will face serious sanctions if they fail to clear their name and the case will continue to cast a shadow over Enzo Maresca and his players until it is finally resolved.
Cityâs reputation, and that of their owners, depends on this and the final judgement will also have implications for relations between Abu Dhabi and the United Kingdom. The two countries have close ties and common trade and diplomatic interests, but the strength of that relationship will be tested if City are found definitively to have broken the rules.
Cityâs legal dispute with the Premier League would never have existed if it had not been for documents obtained illegally by convicted Portuguese hacker Rui Pinto. From Cityâs perspective, these leaked internal documents are âout-of-context materials purportedly hacked or stolenâ which have been used in an âorganised and clear attempt to damage the clubâs reputationâ.
i think we can all agree on which side skysports is leaning and why..
Lmao
What a load of crap.
For the record, Iâve always thought Kaveh was an utter gobshite.
I donât think a massive points deduction like that over a few seasons would have the effect of condemning City to League 2. The PL canât impose a points deduction on a club in the Football League. So a repeated points deduction would have the effect of making City a yo-yo club for a few seasons.
The points deduction sends them down, they win the Championship get promoted and spend a season in the Prem before getting automatically relegated again.
Better to just expel them from the Prem and let the Football League decide if they want to accept them or not.
Yeah, its an especially bad faith position when the emails include internal communication stating their primary defense strategy was obstruction not mounting an actual defense.
Out of the total 115 charges brought against Manchester City by the Premier League, 35 of them are explicitly for a failure to cooperate with the leagueâs multi-year investigation.
Under Premier League rules, member clubs are legally obligated to act in âthe utmost good faithâ and hand over any requested documents, messages, or financial books when requested. When Manchester Cityâs legal team refused to supply those records or delayed the process often arguing the leak itself was illegitimate the Premier League responded by tacking on a new charge for every single instance of non-cooperation.
The complete breakdown of the 115 charges highlights how those 35 counts fit into the larger case:
| Category of Charge | Number of Counts |
|---|---|
| Failure to provide accurate financial information (inflated sponsorships, etc.) | 54 |
| Failure to cooperate with Premier League investigations (2018â2023) | 35 |
| Failure to provide accurate details on player/manager pay (secret contracts) | 14 |
| Breaches of Premier League Profitability & Sustainability Rules (PSR) | 7 |
| Breaches of UEFA Financial Fair Play (FFP) regulations | 5 |
That sounds like an HMRC issue.
There is obviously a lot worse shit in those books that they donât want to come out. Had the just opened they books and taken a wrap on the knuckles for the breaches of FFP it would have been bad, but not cataclysmic.
They have been willing to add all those non-compliance charges to the sheet, knowing full well it would result in massive sanction.
I think we havenât scratched the surface of what they have been up to. I bet a few referees are feeling prickly at the minute.
âExactly, it all comes down to that sheer arrogance. They genuinely have an âabove the law, rules donât apply to usâ mentality. They looked at the entire Premier League and thought, âWe have enough money and lawyers to rewrite the rulebook.â Taking those 35 non-compliance charges was just them flexing, thinking they were totally untouchable. They never expected to actually get caught out like this.â
The related parties of City made the payment to the referees. This gives them the whole plausible deniability unless one of the crooked referees suddenly grows a conscience and then lays it out bare
What payments ?