Conflating JBP with Sutcliff, nice.
More Matt Walsh, but the point remains that spending time listening to bad actors with abhorrent views isnt a good way to advance meaningful discussion on a topic.
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Good job I donāt listen to a wide range of casts then. Labour party conference being a shining example. And Christian evangelical radio. Seriously, listen to as many people as you can and make your own mind up. JBP is bang on some subjects and wide on others. Same with Hitch, magic and shattering on so many topics but he had the occasional aboration.
This is a trite response. Just play this out in your head a bitā¦if you give someone the grace to listen to their views and decide they are absolutely full of shit, how much more time are they worth giving? How do you think that applies to me having decided that Matt Walsh has nothing helpful to add to this conversation?
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Check your psychic machine, I did. As usual Peterson getting red, angry and shouty about something that doesnāt concern him
He was half right, I didnāt bother, but that doesnāt make my comment incorrect.
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So youāve listened to him and made your own mind up? Pretty sure thatās my point. Let me checkā¦ā¦ yep, thatās my point.
So, why dont we go back in time where you can assume that when his opinions on the issue were dismissed it was done as a result of already knowing who Walsh is and what he has to say on the issue so that we dont have to take this stupid unproductive detour where you act all superior
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I thought your wife told you what to think?
Pot kettle mate.
She tries, and I listen to her. Otherwise whatās the point of getting married? Ignore somebody with a much higher level of education if you wish.
I was jokingā¦butā¦your wife tries to tell you what to think? And you think thatās the point of marriage?
Iāve had enough internet for one day
That does not concern him? He was talking about clinical psychologists and laws related to gender pronouns being imposed. Wtf
thereās a reason why I have avoided this thread for the most part. too much bickering like little girls.
Jordan Peterson? Is he credible? Do right wing people hold him up as some sort of standard bearer?
Or is he discredited?
Heās credible because all of his views are based in facts/statistics/scientific studies. Heās not actually right wing, but he is favoured by people who are as many of his viewpoints align with theirs.
The problem is that not everything he talks about can be boiled down to facts and statistics because humans donāt often fit into nice easy and predictable boxes. Issues are rarely black and whiteā¦though for Peterson they seem to be.
The problem is these relationships tend to be influenced by a positive feedback loop. Iāve never found him particularly interesting or insightful, but I can very much recognize that the JP of 2022 is not the JP of 2012. He has followed the well trodden path of getting traction among a community and increasingly revising his material to better suit that community. I think there is a certain human nature aspect of playing to crowd who tells you youāre great, but the cynic in me also cannot look past the potential for monetization.
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Youāre not married are you?
Get your own jump-rope then, typical.
if he wasnāt motivated by web traffic, I would pay more attention to him. Some of his older, non-confrontational stuff actually has some good content to it. Even in this context of the gender discussion, he has the ability to argue a point but does it in such a way it alienates a two-sided discussion. That said, heās definitely conservative-minded
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