it makes for very poor reading when both sides of an argument think they’re the only valid side and it denigrates to handbags.
No one in psychology or academia takes him seriously. Only mindless loons on YouTube who are enraptured by his ability to take bigoted, right-wing views and apply some academic language and misrepresentation of research and theory
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Are they actually? The last I checked something of his, he was just churning out a whole load of nonsense with no relationship to facts at all. Selectively quoting scientific papers does not mean the scientific papers even support his claims.
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Nah doesn’t count, it’s not a right-wing rag so it’s not a credible source.
Didn’t know much about him until a few years ago, but noticed he had somewhat of a following among some users on here (or the previous forum). Watched a few videos a while back and was surprised to hear stuff that had been used verbatim in previous ‘gender debates’.
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What I will say in favour of Peterson is that Cathy Newman was an absolute show in that interview he did with her, truly awful attempts at gotcha journalism.
But I can’t stand Peterson either. He pushed this carnivore diet and made claims about it he can’t substantiate. And more than that, his whiny voice and tone is terribly irritating.
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Can a real man have a whiny voice?
I did try reading his book to make my own mind up. The chapter comparing us to lobsters would be hilarious if he wasn’t being totally serious
she tried to trap him so many times, and he’s simply just careful enough with this words to deflect her attempts.
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Man-bags, please.
any bags, really.
I mean, I do see the utility of them, especially what with the ever-ballooning size of phones. Hand sanitiser gels, cards in wallet, list goes on…
Off topic maybe, but I had the same experience when I moved to the US with Christianity. Despite having to do the morning prayers in school for 12 years, religion was just not something I’d spent any time thinking about so when I moved to the US as an 18 year old I was really taken aback by the seeming sophistication of the thoughts many of my American peers had on the issue. I explored this, especially where it came to evolution and gay rights, and quickly realized that it was always the same lines being used to justify a position being taken. The commonality of not just the arguments, but the phrasing of them, made it apparent that these ideas were the not the result of some hard earned personal wisdom, but simply talking points that were being parroted.
The lesson I took from this was not any insight into how thinking of religion can help guide people to answers about complex questions, but the willingness people have to commit to answers that make them comfortable and pass it off as individual thought. While I try to keep an open mind in debates, this lesson has been a guiding light for me since then and has been shown to have been particularly useful through issues like Trump, Covid, cancel culture debates, and pretty much any hot button social issue that is riling up Fox news.
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I read the Guardian article and watch the interview with JBP and Cathy Newman.
I thought he came across fairly well.
I’m not familiar with his body of work, just what I’ve seen here, so if he’s a wrong 'un, so be it, but on what I’ve seen so far, I thought he came across fairly well.
most people lack original thought. They just regurgitate what they’ve been exposed to from previous generations, the media, and their social influences.
and where does this “woke” shit come from.
The term is one that developed in the black community to refer to people who had their eyes opened to the extent of social injustice, particularly institutionalized racism. It’s an old term, but seems to have come back into use in this way in the 2010s primarily as a result of the social media attention paid to the Pussy Riot arrest and the Michael Brown protests (essentially, the beginning of the BLM movement).
As always happens, awful people react negatively to being told they are acting awfully and didnt like the things that “woke” people were talking about. So, in response they co-opted the phrase as a sneering pejorative to be used against anyone who dared speak about the way society stacked in certain ways against certain people. The pathologically centrist, especially those in the political media, then fell over themselves to adopt that framing of the term to demonstrate they are serious people who listen to all sides. And so today its a word that means absolutely nothing.
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I thought he was really passive aggressive and superior, like he frequently is.
Apropos of the JP debate, this started trending yesterday
I might conclude the same if I was more familiar with him. On the one encounter, which is not a lot to go on, I thought she kept trying to put words into his mouth, and he kept trying to come back to what he actually said.
I will watch out for him a bit more.
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