Masculinity - What Makes a Man?

I’ve read his book. And I’m a psychologist. No one takes him seriously within the profession. Most laugh him off, some are devastated that he’s a public face for a profession (clinical psychology) that bears no resemblance to the bullshit he espouses

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In your professional opinion should men be more like lobsters?

Yes, we should stand up straight with our shoulders back, and take our place in the lobster hierarchy :lobster:

I’m feeling inadequate about the size of my pincers. Do you have any advice?

JP’s Rule no 8: ‘Tell the truth. Or at least don’t lie’

It’s not exactly Socrates, is it?

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Rule no 4: ‘Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not the useless person you are today’

So, compare myself (small pincers) with who I was yesterday (small pincers), not who I am today (small pincers)?

That’s deep man.

I ignored it because the left wing / right wing / conspiracy theory reference was too nonsensical to read on any further.

My point is / was that people jump on a media bandwagon without even attempting to read / research or analyse the subject material.

The only opinion on this subject I would remotely respect is from someone that has actually bothered to read and evaluate the subject material. Not being merely guided by the output of a biased, agenda driven media. And even then I may or may not agree.

The ironical comment “Right Wing fanboys of the Guardian” - A left wing (sort of) newspaper seemed to get lost in translation.

Anyway, happy days, I’m off to feed the lobster and make my bed.

Carry On

Ironic given what you said literally right after that?

Okay. You chose to not engage with my post describing why exactly he’s a bad actor.

I’m sO spEcIAl

It’s the ten full matches rule

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Either tag me in or at least give my my possessive apostrophe. As for my anecdotes, like stereo-types, they’re usually reflective of the whole picture.

Usually? You mean some of them are invented?

Very good. You know what I mean.

This is my truth, tell me yours

But what if I don’t identify as Lobster, but would rather be classified as Crab?

You can identify as whatever you want, mate. I’ve got your back.

I mean your shell. Is it a shell?

Fuck. This is a minefield.

Thanks, I knew I could count on support in here.

And yes, I can confirm it is a shell

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He is a text book example of how the right, or maybe better said as the anti-liberals, refute expertise and crednetialism…until some credentialed person comes along who says something they agree with and then they use an appeal to authority to argue why the counter take is correct. Invariably this is someone whose credentials are not stellar and is going way out of their lane with the argument they are making.

What is interesting about JP is he has had about 10 years as a public figure and there has been a very real shift in what he’s focused on in that time. What brought him to prominence was not he quality of his academic work per se, but the unusual ability to communicate his academic work to the general public in a way that was accessible and valuable. The things he was saying were not universal truths, but things rarely are in behavioral science. Instead he was speaking to a community of disaffected young men in a way that made them understand they had to be more responsible for owning their own shit. The value of making your bed in the morning is actually really dubious, but if it is part of a shift in mind set that focuses on being responsible and productive then it’s the sort of the useful first step than can lead to really positive outcomes in certain groups of people.

That was the 2012 version of JP. The issue is, that version of JP was only a niche interest…like a Marie Kondu for young men jus without the netflix show. His inflection point came when he started wading into the culture wars (amusingly, not as a culture warrior, but an anti- culture war warrior - its always the ones most interested in fighting the culture wars who complain most about the “culture wars”), things in which he has no particular expertise. That’s the irony. People who like him use his credentials as an appeal to authority, despite them otherwise criticizing the fallacy in other areas of debate to refute conventional wisdom, his credentials being mediocre, and those credentials not being related to things he now likes to bloviate on.

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I’m pretty sure that what shot him to fame was his public refusal to use Canada’s proposed law to compel speech with regards a person’s preferred pro-nouns. The rest was his excellent ability to milk that fame.

I always think it’s interesting that countries find it has become necessary to legislate for basic manners and kindness.