Well said.
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Ah Joe!
The fucking irony!!
So not meant in a reductionist manner?
I mean I donât know what to tell you. Iâm a massive MCU fanboy and not ashamed of that . Love all of it and will sometimes make efforts to defend it if people are making criticisms of it are baseless.
If people just donât like it, thatâs fine. Not eveything has to be for everyone.
What I mean to say is I donât see being a fanboy as necessarily being a bad thing unless it leads to being toxic about other things.
If someone is accused of being a fanboy of Jordan Peterson and you automatically think that is being offensive or used in a reductionist manner, then that suggests there is something wrong with being a JP fanboy in the first place. 
I have never read or studied Plato. Or read/listened to any critique of his work regarding his philosophy. I would be interested in learning about Plato and his philosophy, following which I would formulate an opinion about him and perhaps even engage in a conversation or two about him. I would look at all critiques, from all angles, and formulate a view.
I, therefore, at this time, being woefully uninformed about Plato have absolutely no opinion on his philosophy or viewpoints.
If I then wanted to engage in a discussion about Plato I would make damn sure I had at least read the fundamentals of his philosophy before disparaging him or his âderanged fanboys.â
So anyone know much about Plato?
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Its a term that I have only used in a reductionist and demeaning manner.
Well that says a lot about you but not really anything about anyone else.
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Nobody was talking about Plato. Anybody disparaging Peterson in this conversation seems to have at the very least listened to him on occasion but several also read his book. Pretty sure nobody is disparaging him from a place of having no knowledge of the fundamentals of his âphilosophyâ.
I know a little about Plato, from back in the day, in one of my A levels. Which is to say, compared to people who know, I donât know much at all!
Ah
OK
Think I will just leave it there.
Have a great day.
You know fuck all about me.
And the term âfanboyâ is I would suggest used in the main as a slight on persons subscribing to any viewpoint.
I would even suggest the manner in which you used it earlier was less than complimentary
Condescending and an insult. Used in the manner you used it earler.
I know that you only use fanboy in a negative way because you told me so earlier. I already explained that wasnât the case for me, but believe what you want. No skin off my nose.
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Except if youâre trans. But sure, the objections to him are from people who object to the advice to stand up straight.
Note, this is not a comment on JP, but the dynamic of a conversation.
OkâŚ
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Me too.
Also amazed at how trousers stay up while weighed down with wallet, keys, phone, penknife and many other manly items.
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I am a man and I donât bother with pants. I just choose to ignore the screams of everyone I pass in the street
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I usually use a belt but there was once I forgot my belt and I had to force myself to have a hard on to hold my pants up for 5 hours.
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Pants which fit?
Also a belt can help.
Also I donât think anybody said it wasnât manly to have a bag; the issue was more on the type of bag. A âman-bagâ which looks like a traditionally feminine cross-body bag in many peopleâs opinion isnât very manly.
Just like at one point you said that little pink bag that was in a photo was where you drew the line (or something to that effect). Other people draw the line in other places. For you a small pink bag isnât manly, for others, any small bag isnât manly and for some no bag at all is the only âacceptableâ answer.
The topic thread title is flawed to start with since there is a sliding scale of masculinity when it comes to things like bags in which size, function and material all play a part - but ultimately how âmasculineâ you are (or your bag is) has no bearing on what makes a man.