Salah looks so short 
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Why did we give him 350k a week to send him out to play like a bang average winger from the 90s?
Get him near the box for fucks sake.
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Maybe he will do half a season like Mane and people wonāt remember the other half 
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Alternatively, Kerr is often thought of short because heās only ever picture around other NBA players, when in fact heās comparable in stature to Virgil 
I mean, he already did. Everyone forgot his quite frankly phenomenal start to last seasonā¦
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If we are trying to convert him to a creator, its wrong, so wrongā¦ Heās a goal scorerā¦ Why have we turned him into a linesman?
vās last year
I honestly donāt get Klopps comments about no time to train so players arenāt making the right runs or whateverā¦ If there isnāt enough time to train a new system donāt fucking try and impliment oneā¦ We knew all the timings of this season, the condensed pre-season, the games coming thick and fastā¦ We seem woefully prepared. Even worse weāve taken our best goal scorer and put him so far away from the goal he gets minimal chancesā¦
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What are those diagrams supposed to be showing, average positioning while in possession or?
In any case, people were already commenting about how blunt we were last season, that Robertson and Alexander-Arnold were being more effectively nullified, and now weāre trying to do something about that and youāre complaining?
His average position in the game.
Yes Iām complaining weāve taken our most potent attacking threat and moved him so far away from the goal heās ineffective.
Iām sure in years to come when Nunez is fully bedded something will click but for now a bit of pragmatism, especially with our next run of 5 games.
I think it does illustrate JĆ¼rgenās point very much.
Did I forget something about the second half of last season or is this merely just a continuation of what we saw then? Heās not in great goal-scoring form but he still created plenty of chances.
Klopp does have a point, itās not as if weāve never seen Salah close to the byline before. The difference is that he is staying put there and isnāt moving closer to the box. The same goes for pretty much everyone else as well, thereās very little movement from their starting positions.
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In seasonās past, some would get frustrated that he would take too many shots on goal. This season, the stats above show that he is playing in a completely different way.
We need that goal scorer mentatlity back, so get him in better postions. Let him take those shots. Luis Diaz is more of a ball carrier from deep, whereas Mo is a lethal goal scorer.
Also last season, where we did the Trent go into midfield thing, Henderson and Elliot (at the start) would pull out wide right for Mo to come in. Now Mo stays mostly wide right, and Elliot and Trent bith push in.
It could be because of Elliotās positioning. Trent isnāt getting into overlapping positions, Salah isnāt going central.
Iām a big fan of Elliot but itās worrying that two of our best players arenāt influencing the game as much as they have done previously. Iām not sure yet if that is the problem, but it could be.
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Crucially, the position you want someone to get the ball in is often not the same as you want the starting position to be. Itās the movement into the space that is key. What Klopp appears to be suggesting is that the issue is not the starting positions, but the movement (either timing or coordination) that is off.
Last season there was a lot of analysis of the rotating triangle Hendo, Trent and Mo made. Theyād each often find themselves in a position you might not have expected them to be in (think Trent as an inside right with Hendo on the touchline), but the key parts were 1) that was not their starting position, and 2) when 1 moved the other two rotated in coordination. One of the things Iām seeing is that individually the players in those positions (often Elliott instead of Hendo) are picking up the same positions but crucially the triangle is breaking down by two people taking the same point and the positions are static. The result is multiple players asking for the same pass and those players being easier to keep tabs on. Thatās probably part of what Klopp is talking about.
The question is why is it happening? Im inclined to think that a big part is the absence of Hendo, a player whose reading of the game is drastically under appreciated, and an outrageously individually talented but far less experienced Elliott maybe clogging up some of the movements. I think itās @ILLOK who has been making this argument the last couple of weeks
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He is being corralled by multiple players, Klopp needs to address that.
Which is why itās important he takes a wide starting position. If not he brings his multiple markers into positions that clog up the areas the rest of the team are trying to play in.
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But he canāt release the ball to the players in supposedly good positions. So how is it fruitful!
Again, weāre talking about starting positions not where he has to receive the ball and the areas he wants to play in. The issue is why is there so little movement from the starting position weāre used to seeing him in and Klopp seemingly wants him to take
Iād agree but more around why Diaz looks to be struggling, as the last few games weāve had Milner, Hendo and Fabio at LCMā¦ And they all like to drift wide so they can open their body up to pass.
It is strange with Elliott though as last season he, Trent and Salah were making some lovely triangles.
Please bear with me on this because Iām really puzzled. Since thereās so little movements from his starting position, why are we sticking with it? For example, Salah is drawing defenders out of position/to the byline creating space for other players, so why donāt we pass the ball to the players in those better positions instead of Salah?