OoooOoo /Shudder VAR Thread

People have been bitching about the Cash situation since immediately after it happened.

I think Leicester may have been amongst the biggest beneficiaries of VAR decisions…

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VARdy… There is clearly an English bias for the most part - Kane is another.

How Fernandes does though… If he had played for us he’d get fuck all.

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Sadly they’ve included a few on there that really aren’t much to them.

Does dilute the absolutely shocking shit to be honest.

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The Van Dijk one was our own fault, cause according to Oliver we should have made more of a fuss. That’s not only absolutely not how this should work, but it’s also a clear incitement to get in the referees face and demand decisions.

And this is the best referee in the league.

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That Trent one still angers the hell out of me.

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And still, some people say it is not a bias against Liverpool.

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How about this ‘technology’

If he’s clearly offside, like you can see he’s offside without drawing lines or shit, then he’s off. Everything else, play on.

I don’t know why they make this so hard.

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But the players, attackers or defenders, will contradict the linesman at their convenience.

More than offside, I’m bothered about Mane being wrestled down without any consequences.

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In 2021/22, referees on the pitch and in the VAR Hub in Stockley Park will be making improvements in three areas:

  • Marginal offsides
  • The assistant delaying the flag for offsides
  • Principles for decision-making around what challenges by players should constitute fouls
Marginal offsides

“We have effectively reintroduced the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player,” says Mike Riley, Managing Director of Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the referees’ body.

“So in a really close offside situation we carry on following the same processes that we did last year with VAR. We apply the one-pixel lines, placing the defending line and then the attacking line.

"We then put on the thicker broadcast lines and where they overlap, those situations will now be deemed as onside.

“So effectively, what we give back to the game is 20 goals that were disallowed last season.”

There will also be a difference in how VAR decisions on potential offsides will be conveyed to TV viewers.

In the first two seasons of VAR, the Premier League displayed the whole process of the VAR determining the offside call to broadcasters, who could share with viewers.

For 2021/22, all that will be shared with viewers is the final image confirming the decision of offside or not.

This process is similar to the one in place at UEFA Euro 2020 and other international competitions.

Delaying the flag

As part of the VAR process last season, Premier League assistant referees delayed raising their flags when an immediate goalscoring opportunity was likely to occur, even if they thought there had been an offside.

Once a goal had been scored or the chance had gone, only then would the assistants raise their flags to indicate the initial offence.

This allows the VAR to check to see if the attacker was onside and a goal could then be awarded.

After a season of learning and feedback from players and clubs, the 2021/22 Premier League assistant referees will raise the threshold for what constitutes an immediate and obvious goalscoring opportunity.

So, for example, an attacking player receiving the ball from an offside position down the wing will now be flagged offside by the assistant.

What contact equals a foul?

Clubs were surveyed by the Premier League in March about VAR, and the feedback from there as well as lessons from the past two seasons have informed Riley and PGMOL about what sort of contact constitutes a foul.

“The experience we have had over the last couple of seasons is that the Premier League is all about competitive and compelling contact,” Riley says.

“We’ve lost a bit of that contact sport, probably because of the intervention of VAR. The experience of the Euros has shown that people will appreciate it if you allow the game to flow, if you accept that some small contacts just aren’t fouls; they are part of the game.

“And the feedback we’ve had from clubs and players is to raise that threshold, so referees don’t go forensically looking for minute contact but consider three factors: is there clear and proper contact? Does that contact have a consequence - does it make somebody fall over? Or is the motivation of the player to use that little contact to go down?

“So if you have clear contact with clear consequences, that is what you penalise, but leave the small things alone, on the pitch and in the VAR Hub."

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So, exactly what fans had been saying for 2 years. Had they included any stakeholders at the beginning they would have started out with these approaches.

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Yeah. And now the tough part… Actually executing this properly.

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Of course, dont expect the changes, ones that everyone desires, to be treated with good faith. The first week of coverage will still be dominated by discussions about whether something would have been given last year.

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Sounds like improvements but we all know that it will depend on who the ref is and the participating teams. :grinning:

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Nice. Just follow a similar line to how it’s been used in the CL and it’ll be good. The PL have obviously struggled with the implementation of the VAR system, but this seems like a great step.

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Easy.

If you’re a player from one of the Manchester clubs:

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If you’re a Liverpool player, not even this:

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Second one is clearly a dive - you can see that Mane is looking for the contact and really tried to whack his head into poor Tyson’s fist. Definitely yellow card for that. That kind of cheating won’t get past scrupulously even handed, consistent and eagle eyed Mike Riley.

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