Post match: Liverpool v Everton (EPL 24/4/22 4.30pm)

Glad you acknowledge that I could not realise that, however it doesn’t imply that you have been affected by it.

Furthermore, please do explain how I could be wrong in my reasoning, and how affirmative action has affected your life in any way?

Absolutely no idea what any of this means.

It’s precisely because of the fact that your immediate criticism of someone with a non Anglo-sounding name was to go to affirmative action as a reason why they were hired, as opposed to the simple observation that many so-called football journalists or pundits are just absolutely brainless.

There could have been many things you could have said, but the fact that your mind went instantly to affirmative action speaks volumes.

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Highlight of the match - BBC5 Radio. The commentators enjoyed the Ali moment too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hexRmIdzVfI

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From 10:06 for the Allison save reaction.

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The stadium-wide ‘You’re going down’ is beautiful. :rofl::rofl:

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I’d say that his big decisions were correct, which is the most important thing. However, I wouldn’t give him more than a 6 out of 10 to be fair. His reluctance to give Prickford a deserved early booking for his timesaving antics was flabbergasting to be honest. One yellow after 15 minutes for the prick would have been enough to send out a clear signal, and would have made the game far more easy for him to referee afterwards. Also, he was wrong on several minor events during the game and almost lost control of it on one or two occasions.

At least, his big decisions were correct, and VAR didn’t shaft us either, phew…

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Good observation. He was right on the big decisions, especially the penalty shouts.

Big miss not booking Pickford as it might have set a more helpful tone for the game.
Big miss not booking Richarlison for simulating injury multiple times, so then late on, having not been booked yet, he is free to kick Henderson.

Lots of bad will from Everton in how they approached that one. I really hope they go down. Ideally Chelsea and Leicester beat them and Burnley pick something up, so the gap is insurmountable as the games run out.

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Rarely happens, it should happen but it rarely does, however Gordon buggered himself over by those first half dives, I do wonder if he gets a penalty if he doesn’t. Same happened with Taylor at Goodison to be fair, he booked one of their ones for diving. I think Attwell was actually pissed off with them.

Liverpool had every right to play on as Richardson spent 10 minutes lying down, there is an image of his ankle that people are banging on about but he didn’t get treatment for that, the ankle can bend in such a way and yet you can feel fine, done it plenty of times though I am strangely flexible and double jointed. Richardson plays the rest of the game because he isn’t injured and he remained on the floor through no fault of Thiago.

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Ironically talking about Liew his piece today is actually not bad.

The difference between Man Utd and Everton is the time we scored. They turned into the Everton against Burnley when we scored which left themselves open to counter attacking.

Problem is they may look good executing a game plan against us but I’ve seen them in other games against Burnley, against Boreham Wood, they may do ok against Chelsea but in 70% of games they are expected to be the team with possession and ideas and simply doesn’t suit them. If you want to see how bad they are to and check that Burnley game.

They also seemed to have issues scoring, anyhow people keep mentioning Origi but we’d hardly had a corner before Diaz came on. Straight away one run and he was causing havoc.

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Memes and jokes aside, I thought both were quietly influential in their own way, while Diaz was the more eyecatching one and Origi had the headlines. Diaz we know is widely considered to be our future so perhaps his display is less remarkable, while the expectations of Origi were lower.

This game I think showed precisely that we will probably miss Origi in isolated moments when he’s gone, as when you just need someone to convert chances/good play into goals, he’s probably the best we have. He’s probably the closest to a perfect “plan B” for us that many fans have called for over the years. The problem is just that we generally don’t play with such a plan B. His physical attributes don’t lend themselves well to the rest of our game, so he only gets a few minutes, 101 league minutes this season. If he leaves, it’ll primarily be because he won’t get much minutes, and the management team will have decided that the costs of keeping him don’t justify the occasional benefit that we get. They’re iconic moments, massive contributions for sure, but if we improve on the other areas of gameplay, the 99% of the time that he doesn’t get to play, then his contributions would not be that important any more.

In this case, it would mean that we gain more points over the course of the season consistently, such that games like these are the vanishing minority (helped of course, by their relegation).

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If those decisions were deemed ‘incompetence’ then he should have been sacked on the spot. If a qualified referee can watch a player make deliberate contact with the ball with a part of his arm that qualifies as ‘hand-ball’ then there is quite simply no excuse, it isn’t incompetence.

If it’s personal bias then imo that’s no different to corruption. Corruption is defined as fraudulent or dishonest behaviour by someone in a position of power. Therefore, if he’s being dishonest in interpreting what he’s seen then he’s corrupt.

I don’t know what subconcious bias is and would be interested if you could explain how that would work in that situation?

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You asked if it’s not corruption then what else is it…that’s all my reply was really.

As for personal bias, if a ref thinks Mane is a diver and refused to call fouls on him is that corruption? I don’t think it is. And it would be very hard to prove and punish. Corruption is like that German ref who was suspended for some years for taking money for giving certain decisions (the guy Bellingham criticised)

Subconscious bias for example could be a ref unknowingly hating red coloured clothes because a girl he liked in kindergarten made fun of his red underpants. :man_shrugging:

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This is strangely specific. Is it autobiographical?

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Yes but for me it’s the colour blue

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Ian Wright sang YNWA at the match. Didn’t he also said that he had to touch “This Is Liverpool” one time (not during a match), while Keane being his usual miserable self, said that the action for a non-LFC player was pointless?

https://www.tiktok.com/@wrightyofficial/video/7090488173893061894

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Yes he did I remember it well, Ian Wright is a legend.

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Everton to ask why Matip challenge on Gordon was not given as penalty in Merseyside derby - BBC Sport

The desperation, did they do the same when they weren’t awarded the 1 against City for the Dias handball?

We should ask them why no one cares about Everton.

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Tô be fair they did ask and they got an apology however by the rules of the game it was a penalty. This one is open to deliberation and interpretation and I can remember seeing at least 3 this weekend across Europe like this, ironically none were given.

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28 mins ball in play. So as I understand it, once a balls dead (corner, goal kick, throw-in, fouls, injuries, subs) it’s no longer considered in play. The only time added on is for obvious time wasting, injury or subs. They did definitely slow the game down, all through borderline legal game management.

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Yeah, that doesn’t seem too far out of the ordinary. Typically a 90 minute match results in only about 60 minutes of actual football.

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