Yeah, that’s what I paraphrased.
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I’d say that means the exact opposite. Clearly when he recieves the ball he beats the press. Problems arise when he’s given too much time to think and he gets caught in two minds as to whether to try beat his man or pass. Not an issue with being pressed, an issue with the opposite. Honestly, any team wanting to nullify Jones’ role in the team should just let him go free range when on the ball. 
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My understanding on press resistant might not be correct then. I understand it as being caught with the ball when being pressed as adding to negative press resistance, while getting past someone when being pressed, adds to being press resistance. Most of the being caught on the ball is when he is pressed by more than one player, as he tends to do too much. Anyway he has improved a fair amount, thankfully, which is what you want from a young player.
I agree with your understanding of the meaning of press resistance, not your application to Jones. See the counterattack yesterday when he was running through - the defender didn’t press him, just stood off him and let Jones run into him. Which tends to be how he loses the ball - not being pressed by a player coming at him but running with tunnel vision into a player that stands their ground. Personally don’t see that as a press resistance issue as the problem isn’t really caused by being pressed but by Jones’ tunnel vision when running with ball - something he has been working on tbf and does less often these days.
As you say in your other post his first touch and close contol are very good. This helps him to beat the press when recieving the ball - its his choices after beating the press that can be frustrating and cause him issues.
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I think this is a case where we are both right and both blinkered. I remember the times he does hold onto the ball and gets pressed, while you remember the times he holds onto the ball and beats the press. In the end we both agree on one thing, and that is he is improving, which was something I was really concerned about before as I saw no improvement for a while (a couple of years back).
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I feel with Jones being asked to play in differing positions in differing games, is beginning to turn him into a ‘jack-of-all-trades’ type player, without giving him a chance to nail down a regular or permanent spot in the team.
This could simply be blamed on his sporadic injury record, but whatever has/is the cause, we are unlikely to see the true Curtis for as long as this ‘hokey-cokey’ trend continues.
When looking at all the players taking up a position on the periphery of the team nucleus… I ask a simple question to myself…
“Would AS buy this player if he wasn’t already at the club”
Where Curtis is concerned, the answer would probably be… maybe a yes, or then again, maybe a no..!
Difficult to decide with Curtis and what his ambitions are
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Nothing wrong with being a ‘jack of all trades’ type of player for Liverpool.
If Curtis would be a special player he’d have nailed down one spot for himself by now.
He will be pushed down the pecking order with every midfield signing.
Two years left on his contract. Interesting situation.
Milos Kerkez: A Tough Test at St. James’ Park
Milos Kerkez played the full 90 minutes on Liverpool’s left side. At just 21, he was immediately handed the burden of facing Newcastle’s intensity. He registered 69 touches and 40 passes, with 78 per cent accuracy.
One moment stood out: the error that led to Newcastle’s goal. From there came the perception among some fans that he was “losing duels all the time.”
The truth is different. Out of 12 duels, Kerkez won nine. Two of three on the ground, seven of nine in the air. He added six clearances, five headed clearances, and two clean tackles. No opponent managed to dribble past him.
His attacking impact was limited: no accurate crosses, no touches inside the box. But defensively his physical strength was evident. The costly error remains a note, yet his foundations are clear. Kerkez looks ready to learn quickly, and Liverpool can hope he grows into a long-term solution on the left.
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I thought this was a fascinating article on our approach to defending set pieces in the match
Why Liverpool’s ‘Italian’ method of defending free kicks seems to be more effective - The Athletic
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Yeah poor Curtis seems very underrated by some on here.
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Paywalled unfortunately. Can you share the gist?
Here is the freed link: https://archive.is/N4V6s
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Yeah, we set up a lower defensive line for set pieces against Newcastle than we have normally done so. This has become a popular method of defending set pieces in Italy with defenders forming a line inside the penalty box, reducing space in the box and reducing the need for defenders to run back towards the goal once the set piece has been taken.
The traditional approach in Dutch football (and probably our approach) has been to field a defensive line to set pieces on the edge of or outside of the penalty box, to try to keep the game away from the penalty area. This however allows attackers to use a wider variety of angles to attack from in set pieces (forwards can take up offside positions, pull wide, take short routines etc) designed to create space for themselves. When the defending line is further back, there are risks that it creates a second ball they can exploit in the penalty area but the positives may offset those risks.
The one moment in the game where we took a higher line was when they scored their second goal.
The article had a range of photo’s showing the set pieces from the game.
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Thanks Mackie, an interesting read and presumably something our little lion will be comfortable with
Nice summary, @redfanman or should that be RedChatGPTMan? 
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I know even before reading it that is a Michael Cox piece because he’s been really interested in this evolution recently.
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Look at this shit. All right under the ref’s nose. Bruno was already on a yellow card at this point.
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They were all like that, Tonali got his injury from his fall. Bruno also took out Jones on the Grav goal and should have been booked for that. He shouldn’t have been on the pitch when he scored.
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Boy am I looking forward to theAnfield match against them not that we will dothesamebut just Rinse them playing football. I used to like Guimaraes but he is a prick of the highest order and his mate Joelington has graduated into the dirtiest hacker in the game.
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