Pre Match. Liverpool vs Villarreal. CL Group Stage Match 3. Tues 20th October. 2000hrs

NOT a surprise

Why? I’m very surprised to see him have such a shocking start

I was about to comment what a shite first 5 minutes just before they scored. There goal beat me to the comments.

Pick it up lads.

No urgency. I don’t know what he was doing.

VVD is quickly becoming a big problem back there. He’s way too slow and passive anymore. Would love to see us bring someone in in Jan to at least compete with him for the starting spot.

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Weirdly complacent start. Expect the ā€œVirgil is overratedā€ brigade to pipe up on socials

He’s been poor for a while now. I’m not going to stop beating that drum.

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And/or Leoni starting to see some action to show us what he can do. Arguably Leoni and Jacquet is the future partnership and they might be together for years to come.

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Jacquet wanted to learn from VVD, I hope he’s changed his mind.

first game im watching live in a while…wtf

We’re not bringing in any more CBs. Keep Araujo, bring along Leoni and Ndukwe, and you’ve got your future four CB rotation right there.

Really? One of our better players over the past 18 months

There was a clip of Semenyo hitting the top speed in PL this season and Virg stayed with him and tackled him

He’s not overrated, just way past his best and has become slow, passive, and error-prone. He was an absolute rock for us for a good long while, but it’s time to start phasing him out of the squad - which arguably should have begun last season.

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Disagree. He’s still our best defender by a distance.

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Strange drum to beat for a Liverpool fan

Past his best I’m afraid

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No one denies that. But he’s still world class imo

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Strongly disagree

Giving away stupid fouls again so they can alleviate the pressure