I don’t mind Roy, shit for us but does have a knack lower down, plus his Palace teams have on occasions shown up to beat Man City when teams of similar and better quality have turned over.
As for those going down, Soton have a few viable players that could be sold and able to regenerate (though someone new at the helm is required)
Leicester the same but more of an issue on contracts, their youth is quite well stocked according to a friend so they could easily be back. (First thing is getting rid of those three coaches).
Leeds should also be challenging but we remember last time. (Again move on from Sam).
All three like Burnley and Sheffield Utd as well as the likes of Bournemouth before them will be helped by the parachute payments.
Saying that the Championship looks stacked next year.
Boro
Sunderland
Hull
Blackburn
Coventry
Norwich
Swansea
Watford
Norwich
You’d all expect them to be in there not to mention some others, in fact I’ve got a sneaky suspicion that Plymouth will surprise a fair few, the coach down their seems to have generally built something.
But all this is for another thread and another season.
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Norwich must be very strong to be fielding an A and a B team in the same league 
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Fair enough, I meant to include Watford I think.
You could easily make a case for WBA, Preston and Millwall.
There are also the likes of QPR and Cardiff are probably due better seasons, also see what Ipswich and maybe Sheff Wed/Barnsley if it’s the former I expect they might do ok considering they dropped off a bit.
It’s one hell of a league next season, if I was Sky I would push for the new tv deal to be adopted a year early.
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Arsenal will be looking at the final league table and looking at the 12 day period when they imploded.
2 goal leads lost against us and West Ham, and the draw against Southampton.
Honestly, I have no idea who your friend is referring to here. Their youth teams are absolutely dogshit!
Well I seriously don’t have a clue so I’m just going off that.
Parachute payments will always impact on clubs going down. It’s why I think Everton would have benefited from it in some form.
I do think Soton get it right then could be the one to come back up.
In some ways he is a sympathetic character given the way he has been treated. But in others…taking plaudits for finishing 11th is the most textbook Royism there is. I think it’s easy to lose sight of how good everyone involved has to be at their job to finish as high as midtable in the perm and so I dont want to dismiss that. But the issue with Roy has always been his desire to take on bigger jobs and still be treated with the expectations of a midtable side.
I will also applaud someone who tries and falls flat on their face for at least having the bravery to go for it. But they will lose all that grace if they try to blame others for their own failures to succeed at that level, or who get pissy at others not treating their failure as a success.
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This piece in the article describes Southampton as a complete basketcase of a club. Lots of the moves and details are difficult to follow, but there is one section where Hasenhuttl’s coaching and support staff was fired and a new staff rehired without his input. There is then a section describing conflict on the training ground between Hasenhuttl and one of these new coaches.
Regarding the players it sounds like they do have talented younger players, but one set up to fail given the structural issues there.
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I think all three have that issue.
Southampton’s academy was in complete collapse a few years ago but they’ve switched it around recently and brought in some super talented players. They’re 16-18 age group has more than a few PL prospects.
At most clubs however the academy and first teams operate seperately to each other so if the first team is ran poorly it may not show at youth level - but will likely stunt the development of those players.
The three they had on the bench yesterday are all quality - then they also have Thierry Small, Jayden Meghoma, Tyler Dibling and Princewill Ehibhatiomhan.
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I thought Southampton had a good youth set up a decade or so again. At what point didcit falter?
The piece I posted was full of interesting information, but was not a very coherent read. What it seemed to be saying about the academy though was that there were players who might ordinarily have expected a bit more first team action, but for a scattergun recruitment process that brought in a bunch of young inexperienced players. It left the first team with too few experienced senior pros to navigate a premier league season and way too many inexperienced players to manage, essentially closing the door on the kids still in the youth sides.
In short, a good number of talented players who have been let down by the structure and who might kick on in a better environment.
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Yep, not a shock. Probably half the value evaporated at the final whistle. Parachute payments do what they were meant to do, fund the club’s transition away from PL status so that clubs don’t collapse. But generally speaking the whole point is that for 2-3 years the relegated club has a declining stream of expenses that they might try to use to get promoted again - while keeping a firm eye on what might happen otherwise. No steady TV money, usually smaller crowds, and fierce competition at the very least from 8 other clubs also on parachute payments.
A very, very different world from the corporate socialism of American sports.
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Yup, I think Bournemouth were in a world of trouble if they didn’t get promoted hence why they spent so much in Jan and then nothing in the summer.
Effectively a year in the PL was going cover their costs, they’ve now got difficult decisions to make this summer.
It might be worth opening our loans to them.
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The holding company for the SF 49ers ownership had been in discussions with Radrizzani about a takeover or significant share purchase. Apparently they were not advised of the use of Elland Road as a security. I suspect their interest has cooled considerably with the relegation, and not being informed of something as significant as an impairment of the primary asset
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We really should have learned lessons after Bruce Osterman took over Tranmere. Didn’t he want to turn the stadium into a supermarket or something?