Russian War Crimes (Part 1)

The non aligned movement did play their part in defusing the suez canal crisis though

It is more that having studied the Cold War in college, I know that the Cold War was first and foremost about competing ideologies and I also happen to know that the Soviet Union no longer exists and Russia has no such ideology, at all. If anything comes close, it is the old Tzarist regime.
And thatā€™s my final suggestion.

Anyway, why are you so interested in derailing the thread ? Stop it.

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Captian Obvious, that is granted here, but they are indeed filmed moving their armour into position as seen above.

I donā€™t think you could pick a better example of the reality of the non-aligned movement than that, one of the five founders of the NAM was one of the major parties in the Suez Crisis. Nehruā€™s role was significant in that he agreed with the US position, unusually. But in real terms, it meant the NAMā€™s vision of operating through the UN was dead on arrival, the UN was largely useless from that point forward.

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Youve got to think about it from the other perspective as wellā€¦ Youve had US willing to overlook that millions died in 1971 in bangladesh and kissinger nixon still continued to oppose India and support Pakistan. They had even escalated that to a nuclear affair which was only solved when Russians sent their own arsenal along

US doesnt deserve to claim the moral high in anything. And thats not a huge time ago as well

Polandā€™s call for Ukrainian EU membership is pretty damn close to a veto, the only way it would get worse would be if the Hungarians asked for it too.

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It is too obvious, the false flags so far have been preposterously bad. The new one is 6 Right Sector guys wanting to blow up a church in Crimea:

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My intent was to say that there have been incidents from the time that cold war was over till now that have led to this. I never will take sides in this conflict and my sympathies as always will always be with the people who have been the worst affected.

Hungarians doing the same will be the veto imo.

The people getting attacked will be worst affected :unamused:

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I am not sure why you keep invoking the idea of a moral high ground. What is relevant in this situation is that Russia is redrawing international borders using armed force. That has not happened in Europe for a long time, except in the context of the break-up of Yugolslavia, and of course, Russiaā€™s previous smaller versions of it. That is a threat to the international order, for Europeans the most serious in 80 years. Morality is really not much of a factor.

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And Kanye still thinks Kim is his woman. Kim disagrees though and that means that what Kanye thinks has no bearing on anything.

There is a great argument that NATO expansion that explicitly excludes Russia is a big provocation we should expect a reaction to. Arguing that Russian is justified in acting this way because it believes these states are theirs is not that.

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Have fun with you meta discussionā€¦

Veto of what?

I think ive said what i wanted in this. And ive been as neutral as i can beā€¦ This shit could quite easily have been avoidable.

I do condemn what russia has done. But to say that the west has been blameless in this is something i wont agree at all.

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EU membership. The Poles are the second biggest internal headache for the EU after Hungary, and a massive consumer of subsidies at the same time. Their eager support for Ukraine underscores why it would be a bad idea, another rather flaky government and another massive consumer of subsidies. Their sudden discovery of the importance of EU cooperation when Putinā€™s Russia is in an aggressive posture is fairly convenient.

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Exactly. If hungary does turn around and support Ukraine , that will end the conflict imoā€¦ Atleast for this time

We can be fairly sure that that will not happen. Orban is on good terms with Russia, he is just in the EU to collect the cheques.

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EU membership would have no effect though as that is nothing to do with Nato from my understanding