Ukrainian people are suffering due to no fault of their own. Quite true. And Russia, US and other nations are not without any faults. They have previously invaded many nations citing many different reasons - sometimes lies too.
But when they are actually required to take action to save lives, then don’t have guts to act. Bully the weak and fear the strong.
He’s been doing it for three days solid.
People seem to believe that the NATO establishment and their version and that is something I find worrying.
The same NATO whose leaders lied about WMD’s in Iraq , The same NATO which dropped depeted uranium in Serbia… I’m all for sanctioning and muzzling the likes of Putin , Just don’t pretend that the NATO leaders are any less of warmongers and bullies
I’m a millenial and I’m comfortable admitting that I’m not made of the same stuff as my folks. Semantics aside I think you get what I’m saying.
Also the Bangladesh war was genocidal in nature.
Yeah, I’m genuinely impressed by the Ukrainian people’s response overall.Of course one can hardly blame anyone who’s fleeing either though.
What we are realising is the opposite. One of the biggest reasons we are in this position is that with have placated and turned a blind eye.
In 1997 they were added to the G7, in 2012 they were welcomed to WTO. Countries like Germany and Italy became reliant on Russia for fuel. A sad reality is the billions paid for oil, paid for many of the weapons we have seen this week.
Putin and Russia (irrespective of what aboutisms) for years have acted closer to a rogue state. Thinly veiled threats of military action, cyber attacks, assassinations. They are closer to North Korea than any civilised nation or leader.
Threats towards Sweden or Finland, neutral countries is in no way normal behaviour. Thinly vailed threats of nuclear war is normal. Rants writing history books is not normal.
The West can’t treat Putin as a normal leader. He is dangerous. Many fear this might be the tip of the iceberg.
NATO didn’t take part in the war in Iraq as an organisation, because opinions among members were divided. Unlike now. The difference between strength of evidence for WMDs in Iraq and a fucking invasion by Russia in Ukraine seems quite stark. It’s a strange comparison tbh.
In regards to History, there are not many countries that haven’t attacked, looted, seized land, etc in one shape or form. Romans, Vikings, Mongolians, Moors, British Empire, Spanish, French, Dutch to name but a few.
I do not condone any of this but it is history and has already happened, what is important is that we learn from this. To a point we (the world) have, since WWII have gad no real appetite to invade and conquer.
Unfortunately or maybe fortunately (in terms of war), technology has changed the demographic. So Instead of sending numerous personnel over the line to be cut down by gun fire you can potentially have no Army and bring down the enemy by Cyber/nuclear attacks.
I really don’t know what is the best way to handle the situation. If UK/US and Europe get involved then Putin would be a dog in the corner and could possibly use any means to get out.
The west has been asleep for the past 30 years, defence spending cut to the bone. Putin has been planning this for years and now we find ourselves on the verge entering into another disastrous war. Make no mIstake, that is what will happen, eventually.
Seriously, he needs to be taken out and quickly. Obviously, that’s a very difficult thing to do, but I hope it happens.
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster”
What the West needs to do is wake the fuck up and increase defence spending to 3% GDP as soon as possible. British army for example is getting smaller and smaller to the extent i can’t see it be of much use for anything apart from helping with things like Covid and floods.
If it prevents this madness from escalating further, so be it. And if that makes me a monster, so be it.
You actually stating on the internet the condoning of someone being assassinated/killed?
I thought such things were unlawful, and know various sites have banned people for such things because their sites can get fined/closed down etc for allowing such calls which has led to people doing certain actions .
This photo makes me really sad 
I think in almost all situations you are correct. But killing during a war is in principle is considered lawful.
I think all the wooltonred is describing is the loss of one particular person during this conflict could lead to the avoidance of hundreds of thousands if not more.
Is this really the answer? I’d kind of prefer the world to just grow the fuck up and eradicate greed.
Lord knows how you do that as it means some giving things up and that seldom happens.
Not quite the same as apologising to Algerians for French abuses though, is it?