Russian War Crimes (Part 2)

I don’t think he is doing it for careerist reasons. My read is that he knows that Ukraine is going to be brought to its knees unless US support increases, which seems unlikely. The current government doesn’t want to do what he sees as necessary (Magnus’ B). If it was, he would probably be willing to stay and fight. But Zelensky is going to be finished at the point Ukraine is forced to sign a treaty recognizing the annexation of Kherson, the Donbas, etc. That surely has to be coming soon, and it may be coming off the table soon. At that point, Ukraine is going to be back at the same political crossroads it was pre-Orange revolution - Russian quislings or legitimate Ukrainian patriots. Anyone tainted with defeat is going to be an easy target for the quislings.

Writ large, I think he is preparing for what he sees as the next stage of Ukraine’s struggle for independence, recognizing that despite enormous courage and sacrifice, it is going to lose this one.

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The imbecile said something sensible !!! Holy Fuck !!!

(just about the Tucker interview that some of us are suffering through to watch).

Tracey absolute idiot. I almost fell off my chair when I read that.

there’s your mistake.

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@Magnus Would you give a summary regarding the Army Chief saga. I have read some articles, but none address the underlying causes.

From what I could grasp:
Army chief wanted mobilisation - like an army chief.
But president did not want to cripple the economy even more.

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Tomorrow.

Pretty good summary of the video

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(This one is saddly not an actual quote):


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And he technically didn’t mention a Ukrainian witch. However, the rest !! :rofl:

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Spectacular video, though not new. Newly released though
https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1757176533708357767
https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1757179825750478995

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https://twitter.com/GloOouD/status/1757151848224477682

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https://twitter.com/chrisschmitz/status/1757699598007615960

The music is ok for this for once.

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1757687298072662085
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1757688707480481800
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1757701784141758597
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1757705844865536020

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I’m still wondering if that Canuck in the volunteer 59th company is my friend’s kid.

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But situation in the east is awful.
The clearly political decision to delay withdrawal. Well, I don’t want to say anything more about it. But Avdiivka is now under operation encirclement and loss ration favours RU by far. The defenders are getting desyroyed. It is too late for orderly withdrawal now I am afraid.

https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1757773420345856198
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1757756761946095859

Could have posted much more, but Avdiivka and how Syrsky has not withdrawn the VERY experienced troops there in time, just makes me sad, so next time I will post about Avdiivka might be when it has fallen and we see pictures of a few hundred Ukrainian prisoners of war from RU sources.

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yep, the RU forces on the Donetsk front have been slowly creeping for 6months now. like Cancer.

I just noticed that the video is from last Aug, I know it wasn’t him because he was home in January for a few weeks.

The main problem is not withdrawing in time, not that Avdiivka itself falls,imo. You need to defend it hard, as long as militarily possible. But when the situation changes and loss ratio starts favouring Russians because they hold the flanks and you end up in encirclement, then you have very badly managed your forces when you do not withdraw in time. And these are experienced units.

absolutely. writing was on the wall over a month ago when the Russians found that drainage tunnel, and before that when the took the man-made hill to the north of town by the train station.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pfXU4re8UFsLhMkE8

This ended up being an impenetrable stronghold for the Russians north of town, they found a bunker in the hill that they could be removed from.

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Yeah, trajejectory has been Russian occupaton of what remains of Avdiivka for a long while. UA should have started withdrawal the day after RU broke into the city imo. Because at that moment, if UA cannot push them back, it becomes cheaper in blood for RU to reinforce. Of course, if UA did not have artillery shortage, it would likely have been very different. But it has and severe manpower shortage as well, and then you need to retreat before loss ratio becomes 1-1, or I fear now in Avdiivka, better than that for RU due to operational encirclement. The forces UA sent there should have been there to cover a retreat as to avoid a RU breakthrough from Avdiivka, not to merely supplant defenders and get destroyed themselves. Of course, as well as not getting personell out, they will have to leave all the equippment for the Russians to capture obviously. Nothing good comes from an order to retreat that comes much too late. Only a defeat that becomes far more grim than necessary.

Obviously I armchair now, but I am honestly not the worst since I have a decent understanding of what is going on.

I have to think this was another element of disagreement that made Zaluzhnyi willing to walk the plank rather than compromise.

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