The Arsenal Thread

Booooo-bimendi? :thinking:

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@PeachesEnRegalia . Your thoughts ?

They were and weren’t the amount of leads they gave up was concerning.

Not as much concerning as the lack of potency in attack once most teams found out their setpiece routine.

It was worse 3, 2 nil leads given up people blamed the attack but they concede goals at the least opportune moments.

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I don’t recollect where arsenal did that.

2-0 perhaps.

But their main problem wasn’t in defense. Still isn’t.

They did give up some goals when they went attacking. But that was more to do with their attack being toothless.

And also being very shit at defending setpieces. But then again , it’s not a midfield issue.

He also isnt a defender so this line of argument is a bit confusing.

He is seemingly being brought in because he is much better than Party at using the ball and will supposedly help Arsenal be more penetrative in their passing in games where they have lots of possession. I get that Rice added goals to his game, but I think it’s a reasonable to ask whether their lack of penetration was at least in part caused by having him as an 8 in most of their games.

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Did arsenal ever have a problem with moving the ball from the midfield to the attack regions ?

I seem to recollect their problem with that being the need to be happy on corners and setpieces.

Progressing the ball forward was never the issue with their existing midfield and wingbacks.

Yes they were pedestrian as shit for long portions

Now connect the dots…why do you think they developed such a reliance on set pieces? Is it maybe because they became predictable in open play when in possession?

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Isn’t that more of a problem with the tactics as such and not the personnel.

I’m not disagreeing with you that Rice is better served as a deeper midfielder.

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And there was always a large element of our attacking play which was predictable.

The difference between arsenal and us was that we struck through with our principles to the end and got the benefits.

Arteta took the easy way out and developed a borderline illegal strategy to shithouse some points and wins and lost out on the overall picture.

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So maybe adding a more technical possession based player back into the midfield is part of the path to getting back to where they were before they took this diversion you dont like.

Your various arguments here are very difficult to connect with each other. Im not saying you are wrong, Im just saying you dont seem to agree with yourself.

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I would say after watching him in La Liga that if they need someone to take penalties he is a decent signing but he has left me as unsure as our goalie.

Let’s put it this way if you asked me whether id want to buy him this summer I’d say no.

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Seeing you describe him like that, reminds me of a player we once offered the same amount of money for, if not more, under peak Edwards, before the move collapsed and we didn’t go back in for him again, even when the opportunity was there.

Step forward Nabil Fekir.

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Not bothered who they sign… They are all playing catch-up :0)

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He’s a good player and will be an upgrade on a fading, and departing, Jorginho. Having said that, Zubimendi won’t move the dial for them too consequentially. They need more.

As far as I can tell, there are two main obstacles for Arsenal to overcome, if they want to be champions.

  1. Mentality
    Winners win. They overcome obstacles. Everyone has adversity, it’s a fact of life, but only the best will overcome it to achieve their objectives. There are growing question marks over Arsenal in this department. How many times have we heard about their injuries? How many times do they keep going on about PGMOL? In both cases they have had a point. It’s not as though those things have not been issues. But Arsenal have allowed them to become roadblocks, and Arteta in particular seems to be especially guilty. Mentality is key. Does he have the capacity to rise above adversity and lead his expensively assembled, and talented squad, to the title? Let’s see, but on the evidence so far, he is getting a reputation as a nearly man.

  2. Striker
    If the mentality is not addressed, no amount of recruitment will make them champions. But looking at the playing side, they need a reliable striker who will stick the ball in the back of the net for them. They are very good in all departments until you get to the striker, and at that point there are question marks, and they are nearly-men. If they sort out a top striker, they will be that more dangerous again.

They need more in attack the problem is they’ve now become quite defensive they are going have to switch.

We had 4 weeks off because Arsenal couldn’t sustain any sort of form. The emphasis was on them to challenge and they didn’t even get within single digits.

Crazy thing is without signings our squad has ways to improve but we are making three quality players who add depth and upgrade with possibly a few more to come.

We ironically stayed still and won the title, these players I think if we get just the rumoured three will make us better.

The emphasis is not only to get back to where they were but overtake a side that can easily top 90 points.

I’ve grown tired of people shitting the bed when our challenger teams buy anyone.

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Still like ol’ Terry 'enry.

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