Very true, but what good times are there right now? Klopp recently staying on an extra 2 years and from what I’ve seen in person the Annie Road coming along nicely…that’s about it, certainly nothing on the pitch is “good”…even our best most senior players looked depressed and give off the vibe they’d rather be sat at home on their multi thousand pound couch.
No we couldn’t. To an extent but you need far more than that to compete. The likes of us and Spurs gonna be left fighting for 6th next season if we go another summer without change…the rest of them above us and Chelsea aint gonna hang around and wait.
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Fucking hell.
In the last four and a bit seasons you have seen your football club win literally everything available to win. There isn’t a single trophy in football that you haven’t watched Jordan lift over his head. You’ve even seen your club win something that until then no Liverpool fan in our entire history had seen us win. No other club in the country can say that.
You have to look at more than a patchy half season and a year that we were fucked by covid in deciding whether these are good times.
I remember us winning the league in 1990, and not even barely noticing given I just presumed we’d win it the following year, and if not then the year after.
I was 12 then. I was 41 when we finally won it again. Fans need to enjoy the good times more because they can dry up at anytime. Too many fans like you are fixated on finding things to complain about instead of enjoying seeing our club doing well.
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I can’t. That’s not me. I’m very much someone who looks at the present day, the present season and what our path will be in the neat future.
History is great to look back on for sure especially after when it comes to the an end of an era (When Klopp moves on/retire I’ll look back and the memories will bring a joy back…temporarily) , I’ve enjoyed/celebrated/partied and cried over the times we won, but to me that’s in the past and I can’t get that back.
2004-2008 Rafa did some great things for this club (not as successful as Klopp) but still enjoyable as we were winning FA/CL cups, challenging for the league getting to other finals…this season has that 2009 season written over it…now imagine thinking the next 4-5 seasons for us could shape up to be what it was back then. 2010-2015 brought some of the worst years this club has ever had.
I watched us win and complained most the season that we weren’t THAT good. Part of me takes pride in the pre-teen Limie being able to identify that the standards were dropping even if we were better than everyone else. But the bigger part realizes that you have to savor it when times are good because you can quickly find yourself in bad polyester kits with an unrecognizable team playing even worse football.
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The confidence those guys were playing with. Everyone knew exactly where they should be, what they should be doing, their minds completely freed up to play football and anticipate the City players’ moves before they’ve even thought of it themselves.
Not going to be easy to get that back, but we’ve got the right man in charge to do it.
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Without another real investment in summer this is along the lines of how our summer should go;
Sales: Phillips 10m, Jones 20m, Elliott 30m & Fab 50m, Bobby Milner Ox Naby Adrian (30m a year in wages freed up) Maybe get rid of Gomez too if we can get around 30m
[Ibou Robbo Trent Jota Diaz Nunez not players you want to be selling…others have no resale value other than Mo but then who’s gonna pay 100m for a 30 year old on 350k a week.]
Buys: Musah 30m, Barrela 60m & someone like Bennacer for 40m
Kickstart 2023 season: Alisson Trent Ibou Virgil Robbo Musah Bennacer Barrela Salah Nunez Diaz
Kelleher Tsimikas Matip Hendo Thiago Gakpo Jota
All of a sudden you’ve got yourself a cracking 18 man squad there with all the injury crocks out the door. (Matip gets a pass because it’s Matip)
Gonna have to be our biggest summer we’ve had since we sold Coutinho and bought in about 4-5 players.
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Not going to get it back with Fabinho and Henderson imo. Don’t believe they can anymore, consistently play at the level they did in our league title winning season.
We’re not going to sell Elliot, we’re not going to sell Jones, and nobody is paying £50m for Fabinho or £30m for Gomez.
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& FSG aren’t pumping 100-150m on the 3 midfielders we need without selling players, so something has to give doesn’t it.
Sell Fab for 40 and Gomez for 20 if you have too, they’re not totally worthless.
Are they not? You’re tight with John Henry now?
I think that there is going to be more money available than we think.
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No course they’re not, look at the finances over the last 10 years.
Might be enough time for new owners to takeover though…wouldn’t put all my eggs into that basket mind.
Absolutely, I think that Sadio’s departure has hit us much more than Gini’s. And yeah, Bobby is in the twilight of his career now, even though he has had an excellent start to the season with us. But the legs are understandably a bit less energetic than three years ago. Same for Hendo and Fab.
Why do our fans simultaneously think our players are shit but also that we can persuade some other club that they are worth tens of billions.
It’s a level of cognitive dissonance that I just can’t relate to.
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The midfield can be fixed with two new players that push fabinho and Henderson to the bench. Fab and hendo would be good depth.
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tens of billions, what lol? Every player has a value in this market, what would you value Gomez and Fab today then? 5/10m? Tribunal fees cost more than that.
I am looking at the finances over the last ten years.
There is nothing to stop FSG borrowing to fund a squad overhaul. There is little else to do in terms of infrastructure and there is clearly space for that kind of upfront borrowing.
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Typo. Millions
It’s not just setting a price, it’s finding a willing buyer. I don’t think Fabinho is a goer for that many clubs. If we’re all sat here thinking his legs have gone, what is it that makes you think professional football clubs haven’t noticed this as well?
Perhaps Klopp should create a second identity in the game, and install himself as manager of another club, and then make inflated offers for all the lads we don’t want anymore. Oh no wait. He can’t do this, because it isn’t a fucking computer game.
Neco was shit and we sold him for almost 20m
Ibe was shit and we sold him for 15m.
So what value do you put on Gomez considering we’ve just renewed his contract & has far more credibility in the bank?
Pretty grim reading aren’t they?
FSG stop FSG borrowing every year hence why we’re in this mess.
Transfer model has been the same from year 1 to year 10, so they’re just gonna toss all that out the window for 1 year will they?