The Corona Pandemic

As for here in Noway, it is getting really bad. Christmas cost us a lot predictably in terms of R, and there are serious signs that segments of the population are tiring of restrictions.
The R number is now around 1.4 , which is very bad.
I don’t know what they are going to do in Oslo at current. Lots of talk going on. Also a lot of debate as to where and how the vaccine should be distributed.

As for total number of dead, it is up to 472 (5 new today).

At the same time, we have today secured 7.2 million extra doses of the Phizer vaccine.
So although it is much worse here, I don’t know. Seems we will be able to vaccinate a rather large part of the population with the most promising vaccines, so I don’t know if I should complain, living in this country, particularly when I compare to other countries. https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/jBO7Qn/norge-sikrer-seg-totalt-72-millioner-pfizer-doser
To be honest, I think I am very privileged when it comes to the virus, despite having a bad time socially personally because of the virus (but who the hell doesn’t, I have friends who have buried both parents within a month from non-covid related stuff, I can’t complain just because I can’t meet new people and etc.)

Something along the lines of keep calm and carry on over an underside of reactionary panic.

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I thought more along the lines of “yeah, …I can’t be asked” vs “fuck, we need to do something”

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Do something? :shushing_face: As in invest private money in PPE?

Fear for those living in Derbyshire and Leicestershire under such fascist police forces

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Read that on the mirror earlier.
Two stories below the latest figures for deaths and infections.
They “only” travelled 7 miles for some exercise and the poor petals got punished.

Is there a gofundme for them?

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To be fair to them, the guidance says you have to stay local but offers no clarification of what is meant by this.

Outside the distance travelled, they seemed to be behaving quite responsibly. Just two of them, social distancing etc.

Maybe they should have said they needed to go for a drive to check that it was safe to drive. I’ve heard that’s OK.

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Common sense in high infection areas should be the responsibility of the individual whether cummings is a prick or not.

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No that was the Australian side.

I’m sure the Australians would have a slightly different version, probably more colourful but at least they actually do something.

personally I applaud their approach. If you have one recorded the case, the liklihood is there is actually more, so hit it early and hit it hard.

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Think of the damage to capital principally big money investment if UK PLC closes…it could become laundered elsewhere. Oh wait, we own all those jurisdictions too.

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Wel the missus just went to have her car serviced and MOT’d. She popped into a local store where she was approached by a woman who was obviously not local.

the lady asked if she was local because the same store chain had refused to serve them 30 miles down the coast.

Not only had this complete idiot travelled from somewhere into the local area she then travelled extensively within the area as well. I pretty pissed off to be honest, I dont think I could have been polite had I been there. I’m honestly angered and by it and I wasn’t even there.

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Personally I am not sure we have handled it disastrously. It’s impossible to predict what will happen, keep the economy open and save all lives. I would hate to be making the calls. So easy on the outside to say it’s wrong because every decision will have a negative effect somewhere.

I am not saying it’s been perfect but unprecedented and difficult times even for the best governments - which this is not.

You’re joking right? Sorry but the numbers say otherwise. And we have. Kids back to school for one day is the latest example of utter incompetence at No. 10. What did Boris know Monday morning that he didn’t know Sunday when he was stating that schools will open.

The only thing this lot have proved good at is funneling public money into the pockets of their friends.

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The government might be disastrous but honestly, black sheeps amongst the people are not exactly covering themselves in glory. Seen too many idiots around the world who seem to think that its a good idea to ignore the regulations and using ‘cos the government’ has been an idiot as an excuse for that. Its like having a debate with the firemen on how using too much water is bad for earth while a fire is burning down the house.

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Not joking no. Trying to be objective and forget party lines. It’s impossible.

What it does prove is what a fantastic survivor viruses are. If this had the death threat of Ebola we would all be is real trouble.

If this had obvious symptoms like Ebola, we wouldn’t have senior government figures backing herd immunity.

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True. Back then I m not sure anyone knew what to expect. My point is hindsight is 20:20. Save every life from Civid - lose lives to economic damage.

It’s not about party lines it’s about doing the right thing or doing something else. This lot have been reactive from Day 1 (missing 5 COBRA meetings for example) rather than being proactive.

From my post above Australia (Brisbane) have been proactive and reactive at the same time. Meanwhile Boris sat on Christmas hoping the problem would disappear it didn’t. He then did the same sitting on schools opening when the reality was they couldn’t. We’ve never closed airports. Putting people coming into the country in quarantine was an after thought, closing borders has only happened when the French did because of Brexit. Sacrificing care homes at the beginning. The list just goes on and on. For me Boris, Cummings and the rest of them have blood on their hands.

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This isn’t strictly true. There is also the fact the government has been behind the curve since the first lockdown, when it could have positioned itself to provide genuine leadership.

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The evidence is clear though. Hit it early and hard reduces the economic damage. Doing a Boris makes it worse. That is why we are performing the worst of any EU nation economically I believe.