The Corona Pandemic

yep, just checked - 22.3% having received the booster. Need to check when I can get the booster myself now.

If it’s the same as for me you’ll be able to book an appointment once 5 months have elapsed after your 2nd jab, with the appointment itself not being before 6 months.

I can book on 7 December for my booster sometime on or after 7 January.

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Just looked. We have to wait for an appointment here. They are targeting higher risk groups first etc. 6 months for me will be just before Christmas.

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Becoming increasingly worried for this Winter

The law just passed the Bundesrat. Without opposing votes! Meanwhile… seriously ill patients are now being brought from Munich to Italy; the situation in south and east Germany is dramatic.

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Seem to be getting on with booster jabs in Spain. Getting the Booster and the Flu jab at the same time now. We went to book an appointment yesterday morning and were told we could be jabbed the same afternoon.
No significant side effects for either of us.

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Surprised at that - I am spacing mine, mostly because the flu vaccine usually kicks my ass, often as bad as the flu it is supposed to protect against. I often don’t get the flu one, because it gives me a 100% chance of getting a faux-flu, where most years I can avoid the actual flu, and some years the vaccine doesn’t actually protect against the dominant variant in circulation. This year though, screwing up a weekend is a civic duty.

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Lockdowns this far in are madness.

Yet the countries considering them are seeing peak cases - matter of which madness you focus on, I guess.

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Are there any other options?

England in particular has ignored every possible form of restriction including basics stuff like mask wearing and has had a steady 35000 (my best guess average)new cases on average every day since mid July. It’s almost as if we have a baked in level of infection now, right before Winter. I can only assume Germany / Austria are trying to get a grip of it before Winter.

They will fail. If we’ve learned nothing it is that these protocols come with too many exceptions for them to work. This virus is everywhere now, like the common cold and as impossible to eradicate as the common cold. Time to allow the human animal to decide how to best protect himself.

Depends on what you define as ‘work’. Eradication? Yes, I think when NZ threw in the towel, that was clear. But hammering down R to reset the timeline, I’d argue they have been quite successful, with effectiveness even with some of the fairly mediocre ones.

However, I’d much prefer more moderate restrictions earlier, though very few governments have managed to finesse that.

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In East Germany/ Saxony, the labor protection law has just been temporarily changed so that work can also be done on Sundays in crematoriums.

:pensive:

Starve and remain virus free, or play dice with a virus?

Things are getting bad around Europe again :expressionless:

No one is starving, by the way, and few would lock down if their governments did not require it. As soon as they get the chance, they take one of the exceptions and go to the store to trade the virus with others. People wanna hang out, man.

My point was that many have no option but to go to work. Perhaps they are considered vulnerable as well?

Without some kind of guidance then the risks to people increase.

Maybe, more that people are living month to month or week to week. They have very little capacity to absorb a hit from a change in finances.

That isn’t exclusive to those on lower wages.

I think when Europe went on a full reopening, in Singapore, we went on a very restricted reopening and just after 2 weeks, went back to almost a lockdown again and we are still in it, even though Singapore had 94% eligible population doubled jabbed/85% total population. This caused a huge criticism of the government in Singapore because it seems they backtracked in their narrative of living with the endemic virus, but the government kept explaining without giving in, that while the long term objective is to live with the virus, but if at any time, the spike is too sudden and too steep, causing a possible overload of the ICUs and hospital beds, they will need to do this from time to time unfortunately.

Now, I am not here to gloat or to say “see?” because far from it, I had always believed that the right thing at least from my perspective has been somewhere in between what Singapore did and what Europe did. I think Singapore had been slightly over-conservative in terms of its reopening measures, even if I can understand and accept why but at the same time, I think Europe has been too liberal in its re-opening. I mean whats wrong with mandating that regardless indoors and outdoors, to continue wearing masks except during eating and drinking and mandating certain sizes at social gatherings etc? It seems that Europe was in a hurry to go from 0-100 in record time. Nobody in this world, whether Europe or in Singapore or anywhere in this world, likes to wear a mask or get locked down but while I hope the government will make wise decisions based on what they know, and even if some will screw up, there is no time more critical for us, the citizens, to live with measures, the opening, reopening, lockdowns, restrictions from time to time and accept that it might be necessary instead of going against it for the sake of it…because honestly, all of us are none the wiser, and I can say, politician or not, I think the common objective is really to get the hell out of this.

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Seems lots of Europe is currently locking down. Yet life in England seems to be pretty much back to normal?