The Corona Pandemic

I just have confidence I’m doing the right thing, it should be enough, stay calm and just don’t engage.
I find here where I am if I have a mask others put theirs on too. In anycase it’s obligatory in confined public places here so you have the rules on your side.

What was the advice for people attending?

Personally if there’s nothing from the venue then I struggle to see how they can square their obligations under H&S law.

I’d like it to be mandatory in the UK again - so it’s no longer a moral judgement! It’s difficult when the adults are parents of kids at the school my kids go to. If I wasn’t regularly interacting with them I wouldn’t feel so awkward but these are people you see daily who are not quite your friends (in most cases). It would help if the venues themselves encouraged it but they’re not really, at all.

Much easier at work. Everyone must wear a mask when transiting through communal areas or when going into someone else’s room.

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Actually, I don’t think there is. When a hundred and fifty people (if not more) are dying daily, that isn’t normal. I think it’s sonewhat irresponsible to even think that normality is a right in that context.

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I think that’s one of the reasons why a lot of the younger generation, no longer wear masks. They’re concerned about their ‘image’, it doesn’t look ‘cool’ and they give in to peer pressure.

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There were no requirements at all. 1000 people singing raucously for 2 hours indoors. No risk there whatsoever.

Edit, just checked 2335 people……

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Ta. Like I said I’m not sure how they could prove that they’ve managed the risks.

I suspect it comes back to government advice, or lack of.

Are we not now at a point where it’s upto the individual to assess the risk and conduct accordingly? Unless the NHS gets swamped again, can’t see anything changing. Although a lockdown on the 30th/31st December would be about right.

True but it’s also human nature.

Not so long ago getting people to work PPE on construction sites was a mixture of difficult combined with a whole heap of apathy in enforcing it.

It took a pretty big effort in changing that attitude. But it had to come from above and had to be enforced heavily. It’s now normal practice and everyone’s completely at ease with it. Also worth noting that the PPE requirements also increased considerably to what was required back then also.

Vaccination of 5-12 year olds to begin later this week in Canada. I think that will usher in a new stage that leads to a real end, we will be approaching 85% of the whole population by the end of December.

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The NHS is being swamped.

In a place of work everyone has a legal obligation to manage Health and Safety. Worth noting that under H&S law it is the only law in the UK where you are guilty until you can prove yourself innocent.

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In my other line of work, HSE and risk assessments play a pretty considerable role. 10,000 due on Thursday night, oh the paperwork. Thankfully my COVID compliance statement was written ages ago and still carries. As for venues hosting events, like I said. pretty much nobody gives a fuck any more.

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Polling here shows a stronger majority, last one I saw suggested 85%. We have reached the ‘fuck it’ stage here too, another lockdown would be very difficult, but it is the idiots we have become fed up with, not the masks. The incompetent messaging around covid, vaccinations in particular, probably cost the Conservative party a chance to form government in the recent election.

In many ways it is the willingly unvaccinated cohorts who are the virus now. Thick cunts.

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The math says that with Delta, ~5% of the population can be unvaccinated and still meet the likely herd immunity threshold. After those unable to take the vaccine for legitimate reasons, children (now 0-5 here), that just leaves a very finite capacity for morons.

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That’s statement of the day right there

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Generally, it seems to me that the Anglo-saxon and northern countries have a better acceptation rate regarding vaccination, the obvious exception being the USA of course. In mediterranean countries, you find a more important part who doesn’t want to be vaccinated. I wonder if this has to do with the trust-level citizens have in their respective governments. That would explain the low acceptance rate in the USA, in France and other countries (low confidence levels = less readiness to do what the state tells you to do).

Anglo-Saxon vaccines too. I know I’d be less eager to take a vaccine if it was French :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, that might be a reason as well, but it can’t explain the resistance in the USA.