I don’t take the findings as any negative of the vaccines. Disease severity isn’t reduced in Omicron from double vaccination, but Omicron is far more contagious which means it’s far more important to be vaccinated than to be unvaccinated. Jury still out on the effectiveness of boosters.
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same thing I am hearing locally from my friends in healthcare. couple of them are nurses and it’s infuriating to them that the egos of the unvaccinated are taking away from the care of those who need the surgical services of the hospital but are being pushed back due to risk of spreading.
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Ontario hospitalizations starting to build momentum. ICU’s showing an uptick, but given the ~10 day lag from infection to those events, this is rather worrisome.
are those two numbers cumulative? 423 cases in hospital, of those there are 163 in ICU?
or is there a total of 586 checked in?
Anti vaxxers having a field day with this Omicron variant. no shame
I think that’s pretty conclusively in, even wrt Omicron. The benefit vs infection is present but limited relative to previous strains, but the effect on clinical outcomes is significant. I think the issue is how long the benefit lasts as there is some evidence of quicker waning in some people than we saw with the original regimen, and Israel have started going for a 2nd booster.
I dont who saw this, but I liked it
https://twitter.com/healthvermont/status/1473741375724261378?s=20
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ICU is a subset of the hospitalization number.
Antivaxxers have been willfully misinterpreting what the vaccines were evaluated against all along. Omicron is just particularly striking in making the vaccines not do what they were not actually evaluated to do.
How is your little guy doing today?
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his shoulder is feeling better today. was sore last night but a bit of ice cream and cbd salve helped. 
gonna give him a workout with a snow shovel as soon as I’m logged off work
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I think this is overstated. Vaccines are supposed to limit transmission, it’s just not how we primarily evaluate their benefit. the issue with transmission mitigation though is it is as much a community level effect as it is an individual. It is effective because it does provide some defense against transmission. But that has to balanced against the level of transmission in your community. The more people are vaccinated the less transmission and the more the protection against infection can be realized, but in a high exposure environment that protection becomes only theoretical pretty quickly.
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Start 'em young in BC!
Right, it is an expected benefit, but it was not the point evaluated in the trials.
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What about that had Covid say 12months ago? Is their immunity likely to be waning?
Just seeing arguments from a few local antivaxxers. Trying hard not to engage with them.
not storebought. this stuff is specially made and it works. no THC in it either.
I have the THC+CBD as well, it’s amazing for sports injuries. I just cannot use it on my son. the person who makes it for me has already applied for the patent, however due to the specific kind of extraction process used for the distillates being used (not recognized in Canada) it’s in a holding pattern. so it’s all under the table right now.
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It is not immunity, but it does appear that there was a relative benefit from any prior infection. Very tricky to isolate until there is a clear idea of the causal mechanism, but it does appear to outlast the ~6 months that antibodies are around. But that benefit is still outclassed by the effect of a 3rd booster.
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Yes there’s a supply problem with Pfizer apparently.
So this is Christmas (again)
That’s nothing! That fat bastard came down our chimney last night, heaving cough, runny nose. Still delivering presents! Why, he’s infected millions! Millions! OmiClaus!!!
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I for one have complete confidence in that Pfizer vaccine.
They also developed Viagra.
And who can arouse deaths to life can protect healthy people from disease too.
Take the blue pill
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