Killing European defence cheifs?
That would be an attack on NATO?
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Is it if it’s clandestine and hybrid in nature ?
For NATO to “work”, it must be unanymous assent. A defence chief being murdered by someone who maybe cannot directly be proven to be Russia (at least with public evidence)…
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Are you being serious.
So after trying to come across all condescending and create a false narrative. When challenged this is your response.
I added my opinion to a discussion, which is exactly what you did. I didn’t quote anything out of context, I quoted the point I responded to,
At least I quoted a comment, you just made things up and you know it. I am not expecting you to do my work for me, I am just expecting you to justify your own work.
So to summarise:
You accused me of saying things I never said.
Your posting style was arrogant and condescending.
I challenged you on your accusations.
You have then failed to support your point/post.
You then engaged in deflection because you know you can’t justify your post.
To try and save face, It is now my fault you can’t justify your post.
Further more, in rightly defending myself from your lies and asking you to support your comments. You, fail to take ownership of your comments and embarrassingly try and save face by trying to make it as if I am posting in bad faith.
I had actually started typing out a more honest assessment of you as a poster. I even started it with a note to the Mods stating that I was happy to take a ban. However, upon reflection I came to the conclusion that it is negative energy and wouldn’t help the situation.
Drawing a line under the situation.
I was reading this Guardian article about the difference between the protesting Brotish students and the French. I fpund it quite interesting.
Angry French students take to the streets. British students don’t – and I think I know why | Kitty Sayers Angry French students take to the streets. British students don’t – and I think I know why | Kitty Sayers | The Guardian
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I think many factors contribute to communities not getting on, such as economic factors, high unemployment, underfunded schools, lack of educational and integration resources, living indeprived areas , nowhere for the youth to go, such as youth clubs to get kids off the street, drug gangs targeting vulnerable youngsters.
Countries need to invest and safeguard the youth, especially underprivileged and disadvantaged ones to give them a chance
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I was in Dublin last year and nearly everyone who lived there said, there is an acute housing problem especially in the cities.
Have the central government speeded up now?
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In relation to the french students, i am sure i heard correctly, a french student being interviewed during a protest and he said " in the summer it is hot and in the winter it is cold" … I thought surely they are not protesting about the weather, right?
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@RedWhippet , how is the housing market in Germany in general?
Is it is to rent or buy and get a mortgage?
I think it is because many of the schools do not have any workable heating in the winter and some form of air-conditioning in the summer.
I understand where they are coming from. None of our labs have air-conditioning and it was roasting in the summer, even the fans didn’t help.
I was walking around with a cold damp flannel on my head. A few of our students fainted due to the heat and wechad to call the ambulance.
Their weather seasons are much colder and hotter than our seasons
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It varies. In the big cities it can be difficult to find an apartment and rents have gone up a lot over the last few years. I think mortgages are readily available, but there is a shortage of new builds.
In rural places, particularly in the east, it’s easier to find somewhere. Like anywhere, the demand for housing is related to job prospects.
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Some are, yes! 
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@Flobs I am moving to France when I retire!!
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Framce was born out of rebellion…
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Lack of housing seems to be a problem the world over. We may make it sound like it is acute in our country but most countries are experiencing the same thing. It’s very coincidental that a lot of countries are experiencing it at the same time but i think it’s more opportunism by entities looking to take advantage of lack of labour, skills and resources and using that as a method to manipulate prices of everything to do with housing in order to control the housing markets in many western countries.
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Why can’t the Brits be more like the French?
We will complain about everything under the sun, then we will all have a cuppa or go down to the pub and talk football or the latest fashion or film. 
Am in Hamburg for a few days and bizarrely the weather was great! Am not sure how often that can be said and I’m here through to Wednesday so lots of time for things to change my perception…
The reason to mention this in general was more to make a comment on how you take your life into the hands of a mad man every time you catch a cab… To say I was scared during some of the overtaking and undertaking maneuvers would be an understatement! Wow.
Interesting viewpoint from the students and why they have gone all with these fierce protests.
I feel sorry for them. They need a hug too.
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@Flobs
I have been watching all the french videos about the students in different cities. I know it is a very volatile and and sad state of affairs.
You got to hand it to those tenacious and innovative kids. They are very well organised in mobilising everyone in different cities, where to meet up and disperse.
In between the bleakness, missile throwing, there also a sense of dark and dry humour and carnival atmosphere. I have seen youth orchestras playing classical music, students humming the ‘Star Wars’ theme standing from behind the bins as the riot police walk towards them.
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I’m not very involved also I don’t follow it on any social media (I have watched with my son the Mayor of Saint Denis getting gassed he’s quite a character).
The ‘organisers’ and majority of students didn’t want any violence it’s the police who started that under instructions from the Government. They seemed to have thought it’s just kids we’ll smash 'em up and they’ll go home.
Macron has intervened now so the police are calming down a bit.
I get my info from France Info/France 24. Like that I can follow the debate and where the different political parties stand (the worst I heard was some Horizon MPs who justified the maiming of students).
In general protests tend to be in good nature at least those supported by the unions. They can be quite like carnivals. Of course these aren’t as structured as what the unions do who have strict protocols and communication with the police usually and keep their members in order when it comes to organised and permitted marches.
It has to be noted that this started from the Lycées Professional which are notoriously badly funded and upkept in general with terrible discipline.
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