The German Election

This weekend party conventions in Germany. SPD, AfD, BSW.
Saw Weidels ( AfD frontrunner ) speech and just now Wagenknechts speech. I think of what the painter Max Liebermann said in the early thirties regarding the rise of the Nazis : I cannot eat as much as I want to throw up.

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Just to make myself clear : I do absolutely not think that the early 30ies in Germany and today are alike. I just feel that this quote hits the nail regarding the two ladies.

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I have to post it, too important to ignore that

https://x.com/EichlerHagen/status/1883172623145972089

meanwhile in other parts of germany
https://x.com/sven_giegold/status/1883193482111783379

https://x.com/mel__aura/status/1883212843165909008

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As Maddow has commented about Henry Ford’s love of fascism, “It’s bad when you get discovered to have a picture of Hitler given pride of place in your home. It’s worse when its discovered that Hitler has one of you.”

We have now reached that stage with today’s fascists and Musk…but dont call his politics RW.

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Here is what Elon said at the AFD party conference.

The German people are “thousands of years old,” says Musk. It is “okay” to be proud as a German.

No one should feel guilty for the sins of their great-grandparents.

And then the big sentence: “The future of civilization” could depend on the federal election.

I can’t eat as much as I want to vomit as we say :nauseated_face:

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constanly around 20%, this lot. Unbelievable.

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A nice shot by the photographer
https://x.com/mrsorokaa/status/1883282272138514767

https://x.com/BarakRavid/status/1883210731845550324

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This whole ‘the German people are an acient nation, thousands of years old’ is such meaningless horseshit. I dare any German of today to do some geneaology. Even going back just a few hundred years (or less actually), the vast, vast majority will find out what a mixture of heritage they actually are. Fucking hell, going by that I’m more French-Italian-Dutch than German. With a bit Austrian and English mixed in. The AfD head he invited to the inauguration - his name is Chrupalla for fucks sake.

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The whole idea of being “pure-blooded” anything is just completely daft.

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Word.

I learned yesterday that Germany is considered a very difficult country to do genealogy in, because of how public records of ancestry are now protected compared to most countries.

Point taken though, if you look in the arc of ‘thousands of years’, the French are more German than the Germans.

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My father did that before he passed away. Apparently a very common thing to do for older men I’ve noticed. Had no issues.

Might be a more significant problem online than in Germany - the restriction of birth records for 110 years alone is a challenge (accessible to immediate family members or authorized representatives only). Very few countries have anything comparable. It is apparently a legacy of how that information was used for finding ‘racial Jews’.

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Pure-blooded essentially means inbred to buggery.

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I was thinking about that, but didn’t really want to go there.

Sure you can get isolated tribes/villages, but that isn’t really the case for most of the people who are often the subjects of discussions of how “pure-blooded” they are.

Like if this country really cared so much about who’s English/British and who’s not, maybe not have a German royal family?

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Fairly easy to get access for immediate family members and after 110 yrs (or 80 for marriage certifciates) it’s public. I can see those how this might be an issue in some cases though, yeah.
But many people probably will only need searches for ancestors further back in time.

I’m not sure if anyone has seen this (published a week ago by YouGov) but the predicted split of seats make you wonder if reunification ever happened.

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Yeah, looked about the same in the European elections.

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Im not really up to speed with the details, but the take home is these extreme RW parties are doing better in the former GDR regions?

Is this the german “economic anxiety” phenomenon for a region that never really saw the economic spoils of reunification? Some psychic scar from the communist era that sees them incredibly skeptical of “socialist” policies and being reactionary in response?

[/massiveoversimplification]

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Discussed ad nauseam, people make a living writing about this.
You can hear loads of different explanations.
I’m getting somewhat tired of the excuses tbh though. We’ve got economically weak regions in the West as well and there are many former communist/socialist countries that never had the benefit of a Western country propping them up massively. Yeah, I understand a lot, sure, I understand the grievances. But there’s also a culture of just being against and showing it to the Westerners for the sake of it.

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