The Inequality Thread

What I know historically about ‘taking’ baths is that nobles and aristocrats didn’t bathe. They powdered themselves. (I doubt very much that those that worked ‘dirty’ jobs didn’t wash in some manner. However my take historically is that the ‘modern’ bath came from China (far east). However we do know that many nobles of ancient cultures did bathe Cleopatre being the most notable (roman times) and her bathing in milk which was probably soap from Alep.
Romans loved their baths there’s even a town called Bath.
Facinating twists on history where their is a ‘sort’ of truth in it however there is no context.
Soap almost definitely originated around Alep from what I can gather but when?

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It’s almost as if people living in Europe, Asia, and Africa have interacted with one another and shared cultural traditions over the last few millenia, who knew!

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Whether they shared cultural traditions or not, I can’t say; but there has been loads of interactions over the last few millennia.

Alexander went as far as the Sindh
Roman empire encompassed North Africa, eastern rim of Mediterranean, and Anatolia
Ottomans went as far as Rhine
Moors went deep into Iberia and probably southern Italy and France
The Huns went deep into central Europe
The Mongols went around the edges of Black Sea
Italian traders went to China
Arabs went as far as south & south-east Asia and Madagascar
Sudan/Ethiopia regularly traded with Nile deltaic cities and peninsular Arabs

You can add Egypt and the surrounding area with Greece and it’s neighbours to that list. I’ve just finished reading the updated version of Eric Cline’s fascinating book - 1177 BC: The year civilization collapsed.

You mean the views being expressed weren’t real, or genuinely held, or being expressed by real people? All of which you’d know despite me not sharing the thread?

Hard to know what to trust these days, eh?

Sure, the thing I didn’t know was a thing (a trope that white people didn’t know how to wash and remain dirty to this day).

I didn’t, however, post the separate racist thread I referred to.

Maybe I should and you can tell me how I’ve got it all wrong?

it’s not really worth it imo.
There’s lots of stuff between cultures like this. The French are notorious for being smelly for example (and that ‘image’ is not just an english thing’).
Also what you posted had no context in any way. I mean why are they raving about this stuff? The 1st caption indictes that something sparked this off.
As Mascott keeps pointing out social media is toxic and as I pointed out there is historical backup to somethings that are said. It doesn’t offend me to know that some blacks think I am dirty and smelly (2 hours outside digging in a field/garden here in the south of France in the summer I am) or vice versa.
What it does suggest is we are very divided into our cultural sub groups and that needs work. Even highly educated individuals come out with bonkers shit like this sometimes it’s worth pointing out the errors of these thinkings sometimes it’s not as the gulf is too big.

So to summarise if I have showers instead of a baths, does that mean I’m superior?

I looked at some Twitter stuff yesterday related to City. I dont think I’ll go back there for a while… :nauseated_face:

I think all races have their distinctive scents - this is partly the hereditary DNA makeup, the local produce consumed and the environment in which they live.

I was once told that Asian people think that white people smell like sour milk. I have no idea if that is true or someone was pulling my leg.

Yes, I smell of garlic as do many people I meet, oh wait …
I do agree with you people with ginger hair tend to have a distictive smell as do other ‘groups’ but to notice it you need to get close and away from the mouth. Mostly we get odeurs from someones mouth which depends on what they have eaten and their dental hygiene.
BO comes from the secretions of the skin and the, mainly, bacterial flore on the skin. One is controlled by our bodies the other by our environments. Many modern individuals use all sorts of products that disguise their odeur. Just like back in the day ‘aristocrats’ disguised their odeur with sented powders (which I believe are still used by court judges on their funny wigs).

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Here’s the thread…

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What is the freaking difference???

I like taking baths but not showers and its not about bending over and banging my head though that is a consideration. :grinning:

I’m just wondering if there’s any differences between those two?

in one you sit in it and soak in the other you stand up and let water drip off you. Enormous differences!

OR…
In one you can play with your boats, in the other you can’t.! :upside_down_face:

In a bath, the dirt stays in the water that you are lying in and continuing to wash with. In a shower the dirt goes down the plug hole.

Also I have never broken a bath yet left many, of the few, showers I have been in in tatters (after just one shower).

… or in my case all over the floor (which I have to mop up afterward and take a bath to wash myself properly. :rofl:

LOL. state of that level of intelligence.

two celebrities admit they dont wash much…ergo a whole race must do same…words fail…

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