The Man Utd thread (3)

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Every other team in the league play with 3 in the middle, the formation Amorim is stuck to with 2 in the middle and one of those constantly being Bruno is destined to fail. Throw in an old overweight washed up Casemiro alongside him and it becomes a joke. They were lucky to avoid relegation last season, they won’t be so lucky this season.

But, but just over a week ago… …
MANCHESTER – Manchester United lost to Arsenal in their opener on Aug 17, but Ruben Amorim remained full of optimism and said his rebuilt team can now beat anybody in the English Premier League as the club try to put last season’s woeful 15th-place finish behind them.

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:clown_face:

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Shows how bad they are that even a loss papered over the cracks… for a week.

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It’s destined to fail because of the personnel and not the tactics. Lot of teams play with a square middle 4. Even we do as well at times too (especially during transitions)

Amorim’s tactics aren’t anything new. Especially if one of the defenders does come forward to form a double pivot of sorts in the midfield.

Where United will struggle is the profile of players they have in defense and midfield. Casemiro struggles to see beyond 60 min in a game. Mainoo isn’t suited to the system , ugarte is a limited enforcer who will get overrun when opponents send players down the middle. Bruno doesn’t track back and help defensively enough. And is all over the place running like a headless chicken.

None of the defenders show enough ball passing skills to step into the midfield during transitions.

They have improved as far as their attacking play is concerned. He seems to have gotten his wingbacks and #10s pretty well setup. Cunha and Mbuemo are solid upgrades over what they had prior. Amad and Dorgu as wingbacks make sense too. The problem however remains as to their striker. Don’t think they need anyone flashy there but what little I’ve seen of Sesko makes him look rather passive in the build up play. They need a forward who’s more involved in the build up play. I suppose he still needs more time though. He’s only recently come into the side and the league.

And this all goes to shit if there’s a long term injury happening and there are plenty of candidates for those. Shaw , Mount , Any of Cunha or mbuemo. They’re fucked.

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It upset me because the referee didn’t apologise…

Absolutely not joking…that is something my four-year-old says about his six-year-old brother.

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It’s kinda both. If you don’t have the personnel for your tactics to work, then you alter your tactics to suit the players you do have, which Amorim refuses to do.

Bruno is the captain and will play almost every game and he is a liability in that deeper position. If he spent half the energy chasing opponents as he does referees he might be serviceable there. But he’s supposed to be setting the example for the rest… Plus the players they have to play alongside him there all have major flaws as you mentioned so ultimately the personnel are failing and the tactics are not helping them.

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MANCHESTER – Manchester United lost to Arsenal in their opener on Aug 17, but Ruben Amorim remained full of optimism and said his rebuilt team can now beat anybody in the English Premier League* as the club try to put last season’s woeful 15th-place finish behind them.

*Fulham excluded, this list is not exhaustive

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How they still haven’t figured out after all these years that Bruno is very much part of their problems is testament to the stupidity that reigns at the top. They have basically got three number tens now and goofy has to be shoehorned in no matter what.

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If Fergie was still in charge

the ref would have let him retake the penalty,

Then sent of a Fulham player as way of making an apology!

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Goldbridge made this EXACT point yesterday.

So a parodic YouTuber can correctly identify what is likely their major issue, but everyone from the manager up is either too stupid/stubborn to say it?

How delicious.

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That’s the only way he knows how to coach the game. He’s not someone like Thomas Frank or Arne Slot who’ve shown they are adaptable.

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And ETH , Ole altered their tactics to suit the players, that didn’t get them anywhere too.

Ol’ Rubes has 28 points from his 29 PL games in charge.

If that’s not relegation form, I dunno what is…

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From the Guardian:

"As the final whistle was blown at Craven Cottage, Benjamin Sesko wiped his nose on his shirt and then just stood staring down at the turf in the centre circle, while around him the players of Fulham and Manchester United shook hands, embraced, or fell to their knees to praise to the almighty deity, according to preference.

Sesko just carried on staring, then carried on for a bit more, seeming not so much disappointed with this energetically vague 1-1 draw, as consumed by something more basic. How strange to be Sesko right now, aged 22 and a few months, a Ā£73m footballer, thrown into the meat grinder and asked not just to play and score goals for Manchester United, but to fix them too, to work out exactly how this Ā£1bn cut‑and‑shut job of a team, hurled into a non‑negotiable shape by a supremely confident man in white trainers, are actually going to do this.

Score goals. But also invent an attacking rhythm, link the parts, discover how we’re meant to play. Because, frankly, no one else around here seems to have much of a clue."

Didn’t take long for the penny to drop then.

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who is it ment to be?

Is that a serious question?

Because, as that illustration clearly shows, the sleeping giant represents Nanchestir United… presumably no relation to the clown car breaking down comically in Manchester currently.

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