The Man Utd thread (3)

https://x.com/StokeyyG2/status/1960815673850126809

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https://x.com/SkyFootball/status/1960826040055464009

Can someone please explain to me what he is talking about ?

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Poor guy is talking out of sync, he doesn’t know what time of day it is…we don’t realise the damaging psychological effects being a Utd manager holds, this poor soul lost his job and dignity tonight…I hope he gets the help he needs. In Amorim I trust.

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Anyway here’s the “try not to laugh” compilation of the night.

https://x.com/TheHateCentral/status/1960815808147292556?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1960815808147292556|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=

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To be fair he’s clarified it’s 5 games in any competition though he wasn’t classing penalties anyhow l, so it’s like a double blow.

Then again it’s pretty much league games now anyhow.

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I took it as meaning that the United team essentially can’t or don’t want to play for him. I can’t see him lasting much longer at all. He has no confidence that the team can do what he is asking of them. Those comments indicate a complete breakdown of the relationship between manager and team.

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That is a remarkable interview coming after just 2 league games. That is peak mid third season Jose stuff daring the club to fire him

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Speaking of Jose here’s a quote from him from some years back

“And then you also have those coaches who try to do things that just don’t work, and because of that they die, but they say 'I died but I died by my ideas. My friend, if you died by your ideas you are stupid.”

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https://x.com/stevesmithlfc/status/1960790823198450114?s=61&t=VxX1vHU3NOwwNhlbyICG-g

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Felt to me more like he’s giving up and prepared to walk away at this point. When he kept saying “The players spoke loudly, they showed tonight what they want”, I took it to mean that he believes the players don’t want him anymore.

We as Liverpool fans went through a lot in the years from 91 through 2016, but by far the lowest ebb was the Roy Hodgson era, which thankfully only lasted six months. I’m not sure if we can definitively say that he lost the players or the dressing room, or that players downed tools. I think with him he was just out of his depth and wrong for the club. My point is that we NEVER had to deal with the level of toxicity that United have been dealing with since Fergie left, players, managers, front-office brass, etc. Just a shitty nest of self-absorbed hapless cunts, stabbing each other in the back at every turn. We had lows, to be sure, and the Souness era will never be looked back upon with fondness, but despite all of that, we never lost our identity as a club, and we never fostered the kind of radioactive environment that has been allowed to fester at the Old Toilet. Reminder - since being promoted with Shankly in 62, we have never finished outside of the top 8 in English football. They’ll never sing that.

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Those the odds for next keeper?

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When Amorim said “we can beat any team in the league” was he talking about the National league?

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hey lads, been a bit under the pump at the moment, losing track of who plays when and i noticed theres a few posts on here since my last visit…

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…oh my.

put the kettle on…turn off the notifications…have a good ol read about the football for half an hour…

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DT still lives! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

He’s making the distinction between ‘team’, i.e. Grimsby, and group of players, i.e. his group of players. In his mind, the group of players sent a message which was ‘we don’t want to, or can’t, play your way. We’re done with you, Boss.’

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I hope they don’t bring Jose back as he would actually make a team out of Amorim’s group of players.

It’s grim in Grimsby, I hear :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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While Hodgson absolutely drove me up the wall, and the following is not intended as a defence of him, it is critical to understand what a dire state the club as a whole was in when he was manager. The team may not have believed in him, but as a unit they did not not down tools - some headed for the exits (painful, but understandable), but the team kept playing. They just were not very good, mostly because they were what we could afford.

Consider the match that I would compare to this Grimsby match, as our nadir - Northampton, also League 2, also on penalty shootout. The side that lost was made up of the ashes of Rafa’s teams (Agger, Lucas), bench players for Rafa that never quite made the step up (Babel, Ngog, Jones), players picked up cheap for potential (Kelly, Wilson, Pacheco), players picked up cheap because they were cheap (Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic), and a player who was free but would die for the club (Spearing). It was an odd grab-bag of what could be spared for a midweek fixture, and it wasn’t great, a genuine reflection of the very difficult times the club faced.

By contrast, by the time ManU had lost that fixture, they had burned out the hope of all of their transfers this summer. The team they put on the field gets paid more than their opponents total transfer value, more in two weeks than Grimsby is worth as a club.

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