The Man Utd thread

Apparently United are targeting a new striker to lead them back to glory, and it’s… Liam Delap.

L.O.L.

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Worst reveal since Rebekah Vardy’s account.

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Should get Rory in as an additional tactical.

United should look to sell the rights of their recent league campaigns to be made as comedy shows. They’ll mint money , dark tragicomedy with not even a Ted Lasso type feel good factor.

McIlroy?

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Re: Keane/Wright

I can see where both sides are coming from. Keane’s “back-in-my-day” shtick can be tiresome at times, but I agree with him that Bruno is not a proper captain. But I agree with Wright that Bruno is down the list of people I would blame at Manchester United. The problems with that club started before they signed Bruno and would continue even if he was sacked as captain or sold. The problems are deeper and start from horrible owners, through terrible football operations, through poor managers, down to the terrible players. Bruno would not be a great captain in any situation, but I also cannot blame him for failing to overcome the rot that plagues that entire club. Bruno can only lead turds to the toilet.

While Bruno is not captain material, I do think that if he played for a better side with proper management and professionalism, he would thrive. It must be hard to play for a club where you’re surrounded by incompetence.

Faceless INEOS goon: Boss, the staff are asking for sugar to be provided by the club in the coffee room.
Rory:

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Thought that watching MOTD. They went fucking nuts when took the lead against Ipswich. Like it was the goal that clinched the title

It was the goal that turned the corner. The first step to winning the title. Do you not remember us celebrating like that against Norwich? The shirt off celebration? The broken glasses?

I am joking of course. Those scenes were simply players responding positively to what Klopp injected into the club and celebrating the initial fruits of its success. It was among those initial steps we’d ultimately take towards being title winners. There is a big difference between that and the smugness, the “arent we fucking great” stuff you see out of some these Utd players. Its the guy who nutmegs a defender when a minute away from a 4-0 loss and acts like he’s the one who has something to celebrate.

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When he first signed for them (and we’d been linked I think) he had that golden spell, and I remember think FFS they’ve found a Suarez.

It hasn’t panned out like that, but he is still obviously a really good player.

Having said that, I’m on Team Keane. The captaincy should come with responsibility to lead and set an example. He might be great off the pitch, but on the pitch I’ve seen him sulk, hide, asked to be subbed, and go for an argument with the ref while the opposition are breaking. He is a terrible captain, and endemic of club that has allowed standards to fall to rock bottom.

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You all that young that you don’t remember Rory Delap

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Some people are so old that they’ve forgotten him.

Not me, I hasten to add.

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I am always reminded of him every time I watch some League 2 match. It’s nice those tactics live on somewhere. Surprised Arteta hasn’t seen if anyone can throw it that far.

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Is it just trolls or do some Man Utd fans actually belief that Ole was good?

I don’t disagree with you in general. I think I’ve said here before that I was a fan of Bruno’s at Sporting and wanted us to sign him, but soured after seeing how petulant he’d become. I’m a bit sympathetic because of the terrible situation he’s in, but I also agree that a captain has to rise above it.

I will note that Roy Keane once got arrested and had to be bailed out by his manager on the eve of an FA Cup Final. Say what you want about Bruno, but at least he’s never done anything like that. :joy:

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The player or the manager? He’s a bit of a cult figure as a player because of him scoring so many off the subs bench, namely in Fergie time of the CL final in 99.

His time as a manager was mostly about vibes and a welcome change from the toxicity of the Mourinho era. They got some big wins and were consistently in the CL each year, and there’s a belief that he was building something when the club signed Ronaldo against his wishes and that derailed him. There could be some truth to that I suppose, but the reality is that Oleball was just more of the sam shithouse counter-attack style that has typified the post-LVG united. Good enough to win more often than lose, but not good enough to claim the big prizes, because they had literally no answer against a low block.

I do think that had they won that penalty shootout in the EL final against I think Valencia? Things might have turned out a bit different for them. The Ronaldo thing was so stupid, they bought him because he was being heavily linked with City at the time. They didn’t need him, and his presence upset the balance they’d gotten within the squad at the time.

In the present day, I think it’s a case of “absence makes the heart grow fonder” with United fans when discussing Ole, most of them would bite your hand off to go back to those days now.

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I have a friend who is a United fan, and I think his point was that he actually enjoyed going to the match when he was manager. So, yes, a good vibes thing.

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Yeah manager, fair enough, probably slightly lost on me as I remember that 5-0

Can understand the player thing, we’ve had a few similar over time.

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That would make sense. Ole did at least offer a connection to the club’s success under Fergie, and much of what he talked about was through that lens. I would imagine a lot of current Utd fans would have Ole back ahead of the most recent managers.

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Think too many United fans look at the results they got with Ole and equate it to performance. He might have got middling results but as team performances go , they were fucking dire.

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