That may be a contributing factor, but I think it takes more than ideological acceptance to really drive some of these atrocities. To my mind, usually only cycles of interlocking and escalating atrocities produce that.
What? Suggestions that he will find a way to stay in power regardless are reasonable to ponder. Doing so on the basis of support of the Israeli people is completely at odds with reality though.
I think there are a lot of people who dont understand the size of the psychic blow this was to the Israelis. They talk about the terror of the 5 years of elevated threat from the second intifada that was significant enough that it genuinely changed the direction of the country. Yet more people died in this one day than did over that entire 5 year period. There is variability in how broadly the responsibility for that catastrophic failure of security is assigned, but it is pretty much universal that Netenyahu is considered core to that failure.
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Itâs one of the contributing factors , one which may have shaped the way the Palestinians and the Arab world dealt with the issue pre 1947 and then continued to be one of the factors now itself.
The Israeli responses and aggression both of their own volition and in response to attacks have only served to further push the matter to the shitshow it is now.
He doesnât have the support of the people now. That doesnât mean the opinion of people wouldnât have changed perhaps 2-3 years from now when Elections might well be held.
Itâs a cycle. The left wing idiots will get back eventually once the people get tired of voting for the right wing idiots.
As long as thereâs no consensus in decision making , this stupid cycle is doomed to continue.
My understanding is that Israel was normalising relations with several countries in the region for trade etc. The consequences of normalising is that the Palestine cause becomes secondary and old allies turn a blind eye.
To this end Hamas has been successful. Israeli diplomatic efforts are now out the window (actually worse than that, their diplomatic efforts have isolated them in world stage). No one in the region will be normalising relations for the next decade. Palestine cause is front and centre,
Hamas would not have expect the toll to be as large as it had been. I think they underestimated the response. Elements in Israeli government and IDF instead have viewed this as an opportunity flatten Gaza. Hostages little more than a hall pass to do what they want.
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In what way was those candles were offensive or objectionable?
https://x.com/alexnunns/status/1725192200676356435?s=46&t=Tk6buFVfyHeITdfFRWCVMg
Unbelievable if true. They have no conscience. Power hungry fuckers.
Someone should remind them that there are many Palestinian Christianâs and Israel bombed one of the oldest Christian churches in the world in Gaza. Not that it should fucking matter what religion dead humans are
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Hamas has also achieved their more localized objective of elbowing their way back to the table. Hamas had increasingly been left out of conversations between the Palestinian Authority and other nations, as well as direct dialogue with Israel. They were becoming irrelevant. Whatever they are now, they arenât irrelevant.
Agree that Hamas underestimated the response, likely in direct proportion to how much they underestimated how successful they would be in the initial attack.
Where was this.He also spit on them right at the end.
Itâs a matter of time before the Arab nations come back to talking trade with Israel.
Money talks, and a lot of billionaires are increasing their billions from this conflict
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Every single bullet makes somebody richer.
That $14 billion USA 
gave to Israel 
is going end up with some weapons companies.
US weapons companies perhaps?
Itâs the same as the money being given to Ukraine, Pakistan and naming any other regime/country the usa chooses to support.
There are always strings attached with Aid. Aid by any country for that matter.
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More from Josh Paul , the State Dept. expert who caused a stir earlier this month by quitting his post in exasperation at US/Israel policy , and is fast becoming the sanest voice around when offering solutions to the conflict.
No need to get behind the paywall , the article is free for all to read.
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BBC I guess wonât be getting privileged access in future. They and Fox News were given access to Al-Shifa hospital.
Their conclusions were
- It appears evidence has been planted, comparing what they were shown vs IDF footage posted online.
- The claims of Hamas base either false or greatly exaggerated (2 - AK47s) next to MRI machine is not convincing.
- No evidence of tunnels shown. Nothing to support the underground AI generated network the IDF produced.
That the messaging around Hamas using human shields has been a key part of the narrative.It has killed many civilians to get to the hospital to prove this point. If it does turn out to be false even Israel allies will be applying pressure for ceasefire.
The IDF has since posted footage of the supposed tunnels onlineâŚ. The internet soon debunked these as military tunnels in Sweden.
Meanwhile family of those taken hostage have been pleading with their government to tone down the rhetoric. CNN reported how one of the minister Ben-Gvir was proudly describing how they were torturing captives (bound hands and feet, 8 to a dark room, iron beds, constant music lack of food and water).
https://x.com/ntarnopolsky/status/1724753629024854018?s=46&t=wYI1UQq4Zm7qgLRSA8YMdw
BBC report on the hospitalâŚ
https://x.com/historia_pensar/status/1725558116991816094?s=20