Israel is doing that to Palestinians. Bombing the living daylights out of Gaza with the population having no where to go.
I do believe that had the Arab world been stronger , they would have been doing the same to the state of Israel (if it had been allowed to exist) though.
Israel has the rights to defend itself from attacks like this but you
A) Cannot ignore years of Israel and their actions (mostly) in Gaza which have led to the Palestinians becoming more and more radicalized and joining outfits like Hamas.
And again Israelis arenât the only people to blame for increased Palestinians being radicalized. The Arab countries have their share too.
As of now it seems that the likes of Saudi Arabia etc have decided that theyâd rather have trade and friendly relations with countries like Israel, India etc etc and would conveniently forget the terrorism that they so obviously funded in other countries in the not too distant past and not to mention the spreading the idealogy of a militant strain like wahabbism.
Also @iftikhar , Israel isnât exactly lacking for resources considering the funding they get from USA. They can literally afford their defense purchases and still give their populace free healthcare from the money that uncle sam gives them.
And not to mention , itâs one of the key arms exporters world wide right now and in the forefront of a lot of R&D.
Well, you are entitled to your opinion, the Jews have been the victims of genocide throughout history, give the Arab world half a chance and they will finish them off.
The point is that the Arab world in general isnât bothered about the I&P issue now. Palestinians are unwanted even by the Arabs.
And Israel isnât in a position where theyâll be crushed by the Arab nations.
What the Arab worldâs intentions are if they were in a position of strength is something Iâd agree with you but itâs something that will never happen.
That is why Israel has to strike back as hard as they can if they show any weakness the same Arab world will try again like they have tried in the past.
But thinking that the Palestinians are the victims ⌠tell that to the parents of the 250 young people who were slathered at that festival or the grandparents of the babies who were deadheaded in the kibbutz to name a few âŚ
Israel is fighting for their existence like the Jews have done for centuries and they have my -as someone who partly comes from Portuguese Jews- full support.
The fundamental problem is that there is no shortage of victims on either side, and what little space there was for moderate voices collapsed after the failure of the Oslo process and the 2nd Intifada. In Israel, it has been political suicide to speak of compromise since Barak was left holding the bag. In Palestine, the PLO has never recovered the dominant position it had, despite veering to a more radical stance. In practical terms, taking a moderate position has often been more than just political suicide.
And yet, the narrative in the UK is that they alone are taking all the worldâs refugees. This is due to a campaign of disinformation by the government and their allies in the media.
Spread fear and hate, gain votes.
Something which I , personally am of the view point.
With polarized views , both for and anti Israel (or Palestine) for that matter , itâs not a surprise that there is no easy solution.
I do believe the Arab countries are much more to blame than the Palestinians though. The Palestinians were used by the Arab countries and then discarded.
I feel that generally, most of the Arab nations have no problem co-existing with Israel, even uneasily because of the historical differences. This is evident from the increasing number of treaties, peace deal, trade deals etc seen in this region with Israel.
The big problem is however, the extremist groups especially groups like Hezbollah. And they are a problem because any point of time Israel lets their guard down or show any sign of weakness, groups like Hezbollah will not hesitate to eradicate Israel or at least kill as many Jews as possible. And if they are just some small random groups, it might still be containable, however the influence of groups like Hezbollah is cross borders and unite and incite through religious resistance and martyrdom. And the countries that host these groups are either not strong enough to seed out these groups and even considering the religious influence of these groups, any legit government who does make any intention of weeding out these groups will be faced with a huge resistance from their civilian supporters.
Just like some would like to understand the motives behind this resistance fight back from Palestine, maybe its also fair to understand why Israel has to behave this way. Eradication of a Jewish nation is not a myth nor hearsay, its a fact that until today, some factions could not bear to see the existence of a Jewish nation and consider them a stain in the region.
None of these motivations or reasons on either side are good enough to engage in killing thousands of innocent but if we want to engage in understanding of the reasons, then lets do it for both sides.
The atrocities on both sides have to stop, but that will not happen as long as people like you are spouting such one sided hate speech.
All the talk, on both sides, of destroying the other, of pushing the other into the sea and so on only spreads more hate and violence. No side is wholly innocent, and no side is purely evil, but one side has suffered disproportionately and is desperately brutalised. Hamasâ actions are repulsive and repellent and have caused a situation where all Palestinians will suffer even more for a generation or longer.
Like I said, both sides have their reasons and motivations to hit back at each other but none good enough to kill thousands of innocent. That is why I never think its helpful to âsupportâ one side of the narrative because as I said a number of posts ago, the conflict of Israel with Palestine goes beyond these 2 nations, beyond these 2 decades, even beyond the British Mandate, it is perhaps not something we can fully comprehend unless we are the people in this region on either side, having the history, the culture, the religious differences etcâŚ
Like in any war or conflict, the only right thing for anyone of us to say, beyond putting in our one cent worth, is that we hope that less innocent people will die and one innocent death is one too many.
Iâm not supporting one side, but you said that the problem was extremist groups like Hezbollah without mentioning the actions of Israeli extremists.
Having your country stolen and your home destroyed is not going to make you feel love toward the other side, just as machine gunning party goers will also cause a backlash.
