The Middle East Thread

Largely correct.

The map needs accounting for the several new illegal settlements though

The anger at the terrorist attacks from a lot of people are understandable. Just like 9/11 was for USA , Mumbai attacks for India… This is a watershed moment on how Israel chooses to react.

While people have sympathy for the Palestinians (myself included) , I won’t be calling this anything other than a terrorist attack.

Both the previous two terrorist attacks changed the way USA , India started dealing with acts and probably intrinsically changed the country’s viewpoint and more importantly the viewpoint of the populace. Israel’s views have already been radicalized and they’ll get even worse for the Palestinians in Gaza/ West Bank now.

Biden has no choice but to support Israel in this matter.

All this seems very convenient in allowing Israel to purge Gaza though. Like I mentioned before , the Arab nations will shed crocodile tears but this serves their purpose as well. The Arab-Israel railroad holds too much strategic value. Much more than the lives of Palestinians at any rate.

If I didn’t know better , I’d say the Israeli establishment was counting on Hamas to do an attack like this just for the excuse. And Hamas , being a terrorist organisation was willing to provide just that.

Which news outlets are reporting the beheading of babies ? The only mainstream organisation I’ve seen report that are CNN (who said they could not independently verify the story) and Le Figaro (who called them ā€˜rumours’). Both organisations attributed the story to an IDF spokesperson but no Israeli officials have confirmed the claim.

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Then Biden is a fucking idiot (if indeed he did even use those words) for saying such a thing in the first place.

From what I’ve been able to glean , this comes from one Israeli journalist ,presumably caught up in the moment and embellishing a line fed to her most likely by the Spokesperson’s Unit of the IDF. (propaganda unit)

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Yes, but he’s neither the first nor the worst cretin to occupy the White House.

my thoughts and prayers are with all victims in this terrible conflict…seems pedantic to quabble whether children were decapitated or not as they died (i understand how we got to talking about it)

I’m afraid I disagree. Those reports will be used to inure people to the horrors that await , and that’s why they were used.

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Yeah. The rollback by white House means squat now that the damage has been done by Biden.

People will go by what Biden has said.

And there’s a difference between saying people were killed in terrorist attacks or saying people were beheaded.

It’s not just semantics anymore and it becomes worse when the victims are babies.

And if the terrorists did behead babies and there’s definitive proof on that , then the situation totally changes. Knowing Hamas, we just can’t rule it out

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If true, the beheadings must surely rank up there with the horrific bayoneting of babies by Japanese soldiers in WWII.

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yeah i think it would be better to remove or hide that image without moderator input.

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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/second-us-aircraft-carrier-headed-to-mediterranean-amid-israel-gaza-war/3016248

How do I hide it?

im not sure.

Can’t hide it. Please delete/remove the image yourself.

https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1712072850616533426?t=B1H1ulNWNx75Z24XckoUIA&s=19

One more impetus for wanting Gaza cleared ?

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Under the option (the last one next to GIF) above gives 2 choices 1 is to add a poll and the other is to hide details

in basic terms, why would Egypt deny a safe corridoor for Palestinian refugees?

what is the dynamic.

i understand that they would be opposed to housing and paying for 2 million refugees, but surely this wouldnt be the case?

is there an idealogical reason?

Where would the refugees go even if Egypt provides them a safe corridor ?

No country is willing to accept them.

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