The Middle East Thread

Largely correct.

The map needs accounting for the several new illegal settlements though

The anger at the terrorist attacks from a lot of people are understandable. Just like 9/11 was for USA , Mumbai attacks for Indiaā€¦ This is a watershed moment on how Israel chooses to react.

While people have sympathy for the Palestinians (myself included) , I wonā€™t be calling this anything other than a terrorist attack.

Both the previous two terrorist attacks changed the way USA , India started dealing with acts and probably intrinsically changed the countryā€™s viewpoint and more importantly the viewpoint of the populace. Israelā€™s views have already been radicalized and theyā€™ll get even worse for the Palestinians in Gaza/ West Bank now.

Biden has no choice but to support Israel in this matter.

All this seems very convenient in allowing Israel to purge Gaza though. Like I mentioned before , the Arab nations will shed crocodile tears but this serves their purpose as well. The Arab-Israel railroad holds too much strategic value. Much more than the lives of Palestinians at any rate.

If I didnā€™t know better , Iā€™d say the Israeli establishment was counting on Hamas to do an attack like this just for the excuse. And Hamas , being a terrorist organisation was willing to provide just that.

Which news outlets are reporting the beheading of babies ? The only mainstream organisation Iā€™ve seen report that are CNN (who said they could not independently verify the story) and Le Figaro (who called them ā€˜rumoursā€™). Both organisations attributed the story to an IDF spokesperson but no Israeli officials have confirmed the claim.

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Then Biden is a fucking idiot (if indeed he did even use those words) for saying such a thing in the first place.

From what Iā€™ve been able to glean , this comes from one Israeli journalist ,presumably caught up in the moment and embellishing a line fed to her most likely by the Spokespersonā€™s Unit of the IDF. (propaganda unit)

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Yes, but heā€™s neither the first nor the worst cretin to occupy the White House.

my thoughts and prayers are with all victims in this terrible conflictā€¦seems pedantic to quabble whether children were decapitated or not as they died (i understand how we got to talking about it)

Iā€™m afraid I disagree. Those reports will be used to inure people to the horrors that await , and thatā€™s why they were used.

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Yeah. The rollback by white House means squat now that the damage has been done by Biden.

People will go by what Biden has said.

And thereā€™s a difference between saying people were killed in terrorist attacks or saying people were beheaded.

Itā€™s not just semantics anymore and it becomes worse when the victims are babies.

And if the terrorists did behead babies and thereā€™s definitive proof on that , then the situation totally changes. Knowing Hamas, we just canā€™t rule it out

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If true, the beheadings must surely rank up there with the horrific bayoneting of babies by Japanese soldiers in WWII.

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yeah i think it would be better to remove or hide that image without moderator input.

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https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/second-us-aircraft-carrier-headed-to-mediterranean-amid-israel-gaza-war/3016248

How do I hide it?

im not sure.

Canā€™t hide it. Please delete/remove the image yourself.

https://twitter.com/robinmonotti/status/1712072850616533426?t=B1H1ulNWNx75Z24XckoUIA&s=19

One more impetus for wanting Gaza cleared ?

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Under the option (the last one next to GIF) above gives 2 choices 1 is to add a poll and the other is to hide details

in basic terms, why would Egypt deny a safe corridoor for Palestinian refugees?

what is the dynamic.

i understand that they would be opposed to housing and paying for 2 million refugees, but surely this wouldnt be the case?

is there an idealogical reason?

Where would the refugees go even if Egypt provides them a safe corridor ?

No country is willing to accept them.

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